Like everyone else, I’ve heard all this furor, and I’m bemused. It’s not like this is a zero-sum game, where the gay folk gain some rights and someone else loses some. Nobody is being asked to relinquish anything. Should not one human being be allowed to visit a loved one in the hospital, have a seat at the table in estate planning, be considered a partner in healthcare plans, etc.? I know this outrages lots of people, but I (naively) don’t see why it should. Who the hell does it harm?
I don’t get it, either, but then, I’m a liberal weenie. I’ve been told that a lot in the past 18 months…
It’s a distraction from the real issues confronting us. Hard on the heels of an energy and medicare reform bill comes this bit of idiocy to keep the drooling masses occupied.
I’d laugh if I wasn’t so busy sneering.
The jury is out in my corner. I don’t mind if people are gay, but I’m not sure about marriage. Our company has medical benefits for same sex families, and I don’t mind that.
Don’t you see the slippery slope? Once it no longer becomes the simple equation of Man+woman=Happy, shiny, perfect bliss of marriage then anyone can marry anything. Cats could marry dogs. Gearheads could tie the fanbelt with their cars and chaos would rule the earth.
I don’t see what all the fuss is about, either. It’s not like there aren’t loads of heterosexual couples profaning the sacred institution of marriage as it is. 😉
As a married person, I just don’t see why marriage between two men or two women makes any difference to my marriage. But as I am not religious (despite getting married in a church), I tend to see marriage mostly as a legal union. The whole discussion about children needing a “mother” and “father” is, IMO, crap. Children need a stable family environment with (hopefully) level-headed adults to give them guidance. It doesn’t matter if the adults are their biological parents, adoptive patents, a single parent, extended family, or of the same sex. Simply having an mother and father does not guarantee that the child grows up well-adjusted, after all. Yay for Massachusetts!
I guess the problem is $. If gay marriage is allowed, then many additional people will qualify for benefits (as they should). If companies have to pay these benefits, then that affects the business $. I really don’t think that anything has to do with people anymore–it’s all about the rich getting richer and staying richer. I’ll second Bunny’s “Yay for Massachusetts!”
I agree with Bunny and Ali..
I think it is hard enough to find a heterosexual person to marry..
If two same sex persons find each other that is alright with me!!
Love is hard to find for anyone…
I’m w/ y’all (and Scott-the-liberal-weenie). Of course, saying this out loud in Utah might get me arrested (or at least add a mark to my “permanent record”).
as i said a while back – we need to separate “it” into two ceremonies:
Civil union – if you want full protection under the law, you have a civil union.
Marriage/Wedding – if you want to have your union blessed, have the religious ceremony of your choice.
seems simple to me.
It seems more simple to me deborah. The law has no place in religion. It has no say in protecting the religious belief that marriage should be a certain way for everyone. The problem is that, as Lakoff pointed out, religious conservatives have framed the debate in a way to hide this very obvious point to obfuscate the issue.
Re: John’s statement
“The Law has no place in religion”
I couldn’t agree more, but it seems Bush is determined to change all that….
I agree that same sex should have full rights in every way. What if a same sex couple has a child and the birth parent works but dont get medical. The other parent works and gets medical.Well hello that child dose not get it because they are not marraied and they can not make that child their legal child. So in this picture the child is going with out. Who wants their child to go with out. I know I dont want my son to go with out. Whould you??
Everybody in the world are the same type of people- gay or not. We all operate the same. We all live the same, we all die the same. Why can’t we all marry the same? Why can’t we all be with who we want? They’re not easy questions, knowing that some of the answers to those questions are ridiculously outrageous.