NLDS Early game: St. Louis at Chicago, 1:30PM PT, TV: TBS
Down two games to one, the Cardinals ask Game One starter John Lackey to keep them alive on three days rest. He was brilliant in Game One, going 7 1/3 innings, giving up two hits and no runs, walking one and striking out five. He’ll face Jason Hammel, who’ll be making his postseason debut. Hammel went 11 innings against the Cardinals during the regular season and gave up seven runs. He made four starts in September and averaged 4 1/3 innings in each one.
NLDS Late game: Dodgers at Mets, 5:00PM PT, TV: TBS
The Dodgers’ season rests once again on the shoulders of Clayton Kershaw, who will pitch on three days rest after throwing 112 pitches in a Game One loss on October 9. This will be the third postseason in a row in which he’s started a game on short rest. His opponent will be lefty Steven Matz, making his first start of the postseason. The rookie was 4-0 with a 2.27 ERA in 6 regular-season starts.
NLDS Game 4 #Dodgers lineup:
Hernandez CF
Kendrick 2B
Gonzalez 1B
Turner 3B
Seager SS
Puig RF
Ellis C
Ruggiano LF
Kershaw P
— Los Angeles Dodgers (@Dodgers) October 13, 2015
I didn’t know this: there are three musical numbers between the top and bottom of the 7th inning at Citi Field. Not just GBA and TMOTTB but a third I’ve never heard of.
NPUT ALDS Games Five
http://dodgersdigest.com/2015/10/14/how-do-the-dodgers-assemble-an-outfield-for-nlds-game-5-mets/ Mike worries about the Dodger outfield tomorrow night. And well he might. Mr. Schebler would be handy to have but, alas… I’d go with Ethier, Pederson, and Kiki but DM will probably go with Crawford, the walking disaster, instead of Pederson.
This would be my lineup:
LF Hernandez
RF Ethier
3B Turner
1B Gonzales
2B Kendirck
SS Seager
C Ellis
CF Pederson
Although it would be fun for me to see Seager and Pederson hitting back to back.
That can be arranged.
Hernandez
Pederson
Seager
Turner
Gonzales
Kendrick
Ethier
Ellis
Greinke
But it’ll never happen. DM loves those little righty-lefty turn-around-things too much. Plus he don’t want all those young fellows, the nucleus of our future team, hanging out together.
I would enjoy watching that lineup regardless of how well they did, which can’t be much worse than the 8 innings the Dodgers didn’t score in last night’s game.
But luckily Zack will be in the lineup, an even better hitting pitcher than Kersh (who started the only run-scoring inning) So perhaps the #9 spot is the most important?
Brisbee respects Kershaw, but still wants to annoy Dodger fans: http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2015/10/14/9530683/clayton-kershaw-postseason-playoffs
If we win tomorrow, a big “if”, I don’t like the thought of starting Clayton again Saturday on three days rest, but I like the idea of using Anderson or Wood even less; Are there any other alternatives? What about Frias? Remember we could, and should, make roster changes before Saturday.
Kershaw will not be going on three days’ rest again. In the NLCS, Kershaw and Greinke would be throwing games two and three, and six and seven, with normal rest. I would go with either Anderson or Wood, both of whom are better at Dodger Stadium, but have the pen ready. With built-in days off, overworking the pen is not the issue it is in the regular season.
It’s actually Wood who has the better (mucho mejor) splits at home. On the other hand, he seems more apt for possible relief role in that game, if things go south for Anderson.
For me, the choice between Wood and Anderson is easy. I don’t want to ever see Anderson again.
It won’t help in your distaste for Anderson and doesn’t mean much going into the next game, but there is empirical evidence that if you are going to be an average pitcher (such as Anderson) over the long run you give your team a better chance of winning if the variation around the average is large. With these sorts of pitchers (Anderson might be one, if you run his numbers) you need to learn to hold your nose and wait for the next start.
The advantage in being a mere fan and not otherwise involved in the business, I can indulge my prejudices. Winning isn’t everything.
I think this type of pitcher might require a more intelligent manager, one who can tell quickly which pitcher he is that day and give him the hook quickly if necessary, before too much damage is done. That is not a description of DM.
Edit: Let me modify that. He is too slow to decide his starters don’t have it that day, and too quick to change relief pitchers after giving up one hit or a walk. One hit or a walk on the first batter proves nothing, a pitcher might have a little trouble acclimating to the game, and luck is also a factor. If he went with the starter 10, 15, 20 batters, the reliever should have 2 or 3 batters before deciding if he has it today or not.
Honey should know by now. During the season, it’s probably more of a case of what the heck are the alternatives.
Don’t know how a manager could tell. In his first playoff start, Anderson looked like a world-beater in his first inning, then either lost it or the Mets figured him out almost instantly (don’t think he’d ever faced them). Or both.
Hard to know how anyone could tell “much damage” was imminent. But it sure was.
Or Joc wasn’t in cf to track down the ball…
I would like to see Wood. He has pitched his best at Dodger Stadium and is more likely to be a Dodger next year. I like his age as well.
I like pulling for a young player more than I like cheering for a veteran unless that veteran came out of the Dodger organization and thrived as a Dodger or had an entertaining personality. Examples would be Loney, Kemp, and Martin.
I am okay with rented players. Sometimes they are needed to bridge the time before a prospect is ready. But if the rental is at the end of their career and has played mostly with one other team, I don’t feel like they are really a Dodger.
Anderson doesn’t fit into one of those categories so here is a new one. I like fast, athletic players and Anderson isn’t.
A bit of a grimace on JT’s face in fielding the grounder going down on his knee. Seager replaces him. At the end of the game he jogs sort of gingerly out of the dugout to join the on-field celebration.
Noticed that as well.
Great to see the 2-3-4 nucleus up and running, Kendrick, Gonzalez and Justin (better known as Howie, Wowie and Kerplowie) at OPS .941, .915 and 1.233.
In addition to Gonzalez’s “speed,” “Tuesday’s RBI single gave Gonzalez four straight postseason games with an RBI, tied for second-longest streak by a Dodger. The longest streak was a five-game run by Manny Ramirez in 2008, all in the National League Championship Series against Philadelphia.”
Heh.
https://twitter.com/dylanohernandez/status/654141869744607232
…and how about AJ this series?
Just saw the foul tip. Ellis was fuming, and rightfully so.
Oh yes I think I remember that. As I recall, that was a particularly stressful time to be a Dodger fan. History is so fascinating once you know how things turn out!
So St. Louis is the only team to play on the road this postseason and not win at least one game. And that is why they are the first team to be eliminated in the DS round.
What I feel best about, is a win for Kershaw. What I feel second best about, is making this a series. What I feel third best about, is bringing the team back home!
Totally agree with the priorities!
My son preordered tickets for Thursday! I’ll have to watch! No hiding allowed in the stadium!
Well timed trips to the concession kiosk?
And now at least the top five comment filled Elysian Fields’ posts have at least 1 win in their bunch. My guess is that before this thread is all said and done it will end up being very close to the 2nd most commented post this year.
shall I keep writing random comments to extend the record 🙂
We are far off from the top record – set last night – so any comments we add shouldn’t really appear to be just number pushing!
Okay. I’ll be good. I am watching the game now, by the way. Much less stressful this way. (What a play by Turner in the seventh to get the third out!)
None of the stress, still most of the excitement, and all of the enjoyment. Sounds fun to me!
Exactly. And no Viagra ads.
Thank you, all of you, for getting me through this game. Seriously.
You rock RBI. We need you as much as you need us…
Soo happy for Kersh.
If he doesn’t get that hit in the 3rd, they don’t score.
If he’s not pitching, Mets probably DO score (more).
Redemption for Kid K . . . hope for the Blue!
KJ says he was prepared to get six outs if necessary.
I wonder if the debates got viewers from LA and NY
Debates? What debates!
Exactly
Jansen is on the radio. He is pumped!
So we’ll be the only game on Thursday. Good. I can’t mess up the post with extraneous and incorrect info, then.
What, you’re not already worried about Clayton starting the next series on 3 days rest again?
I will be a lot less surly while cooking and serving dinner this evening and sleep a lot better tonight after this win than had we lost.
Me too, Winnipeg Dave. Me, too.
Me three RBI. Me three.
I thought we all handled that well.
https://youtu.be/qpGx4foRdPw
I didn’t see a monkey on Kershaw’s back as he joined the team on the infield or in his interview.
The monkey posted here several times tonight.
Ha! This monkey hid in her banana tree.
I’m going for a long, strenuous bike ride tomorrow to work off the anxiety.
We won? We WIN? WOO-HOO!!!!!!
Weak fly to Joc to close it out in Citi morgue.
They hold my morgue-age.
Love the silence of CiTi!
We win!
and Joc cradles it!
I’m thinking Greinke at Dodger Stadium.
Is it possible?????
Got him. Who predicted k, k, GO?
It was me!! ( I better go)
Another K, but this one took 4 pitches.
Geronimo mowing them down!
Cespedes gone on 3 pitches, he was the big worry I should think.
Thank heaven he’s gone. Two to go.
One.
We got this.
Top of the 9th way too fast. Worrisome.
As if the last several innings weren’t?
Puig still not running well, Id move Kiki to Left, Either to right, put in Joc.
Joc is in.
Fingers crossed.
Dodgers wasted no time at bat to close it out. Put in Joc now I should think.
He has been sitting all game. I wouldn’t put him in now.
I would. Best defensive outfielder.
Kiki dint look good on long routes in center last night.
He’ll take to center like a duck to water. It’s what he does.
You were right
Wayyyy too quick an inning. I guess at least Kenley is still warmed up.
the bell!!
It tolls for thee!
Wow, Citi field is dead silent now.
Keep it that way
Puig could bring us all a little relief.
Well, maybe AJ will.
Or Dre.
Cespedes, D’Arnaud and Duda in the 9th for the Mets.
strikeout, strikeout, groundout
Puig, Ellis, and Ethier for the Dodgers
I could barely handle that inning. How am I supposed to handle the 9th?
you could teach my class
Scary idea, but less scary than this.
9th should get easier as it moves towards the bottom of the lineup.
See above.
4-5-6 hitters
Better than 2-3-4
Immediately, it seems.
A lot scarier than I like.
Kenley at 14 pitches. How many batters will he handle in 9th?
all of them
Arghhh!!!!
Lazy fly to Puig
Nice!
Getting our money’s worth
kids back in to class in 8 minutes, this will kill me (I’ll just have to peek at the score on my I pad at my desk)
Who needs school? We need you!
27 grade 4 students will wonder what I am doing 🙂
A little mystery is good for their young hearts and minds.
They won’t even miss you!
This isn’t the World Series but when I was in the fourth grade we listened to the world series. Let them watch.
Send them out for recess?
they are just coming back after lunch, but they would probably like the idea
Quick, someone figure out how to text John!
I’ve officially stopped breathing.
Ellis looked like he took charge at that meeting on the mound
Replay from the first base side shows a foul tip.
So, out three?
Ump said no, Wright walked.
What!?!?!
Absolutely.
Can’t review balls and strikes.
Foul tip!
Ump is real squeezy.
I’m dying a slow death out here…
Keep on breathing.
It’s Kenley in the ninth that I worry about.
Why?
The break between innings.
And the pitch count.
He won’t know where to sit?
Is everybody having to watch a Viagra ad?
I would stick with Hatcher. Hanley not great with inherited runners.
Hope this works out.
I don’t remember how Kenley does with inherited runners. Does anyone?
He ignores them.
Whatever it is, it is a small sample size.
Asking Kenley to get 4.
one down, five to go
2 and 4.
Hope Hatch is on tonight.
I would have stayed with Kershaw, but I can’t say Mattingly is wrong to pull him.
He did his job.
now lets get him a playoff win
Hatcher it is
Hatch it is.
Hatcher in, Seager to third, Rollins to short.
Oh lordie.
One down
Takes a deep breath in and out.
two down
Breathe, RBI! Breathe!
Granderson walks, Wright up
Dang.
Kenley in.
Whoa.
good move I think
I hope so. I truly do hope so.
It’s Granderson, right? Our nemesis…
The ball to Turner was hit hard, and the fly to center was deep. I would say it is at best batter to batter for Kershaw.
Over to you, Bob.
ready.
Just had a short Skype work call and missed all the fun!
It’s the 8th inning!
It would be nice if we could SCORE here!
Start another or go with Hatch?
I’d start him, but have someone ready.
Before the game started I would not have of hesitated to say go with Hatcher but Kershaw looks good…
thinking the same.
maybe see if he can get 2 more outs and then go Jansen for a 4 out save. It’s a fine line to tread with 94 pitches on 3 days rest.
two outs brings up Granderson. Maybe Avilan?
or since a lefty just keep Clayton in, no?
Avilan would be a fresh lefty. Clayton has to be a little tired after 90+ pitches on 3 days rest, whether he’d admit it or not.
So with Hatch, we probably see Avilan and then Jansen for Wright, right?
just tuned it at work, this looks better, but lots of nerves I see 🙂
Lots and lots and LOTS of nerves!
94 pitches for Clayton.
Moderate pitch count.
Glad to be done with Colon.
If I were a biter of nails, I’d have none left.
Three out? Yes!!!!
Phew!
Thank you Mr. Turner
Double play please
I literally can’t watch. Keep me posted, guys…
No peeking!
No peeking. Promise.
I have stepped away as well. Doing some work on my computer and peeking at this site. It’s too much to bear.
foul out and flyout so far.
So two down and one on?
yes
Okay….
3 down!
Thank you! And thank you, Clayton!
Okay, you can watch again, for another half inning
You know me well.
Reaches for the Jameson…
No worries, mate!
Sounds a bit Aussie to me 🙂
I’ve known a few. 😉
Oh geez
Okay, it’s the 7th
7th inning. Let’s get 3 outs quickly. Please.
It’s the middle of the seventh, and time to mute the sound for Dog Bless America.
Really?
Worst song ever.
What would Utley have done if he were running instead of Kike’?
Howie!!!! No!!!!
Well, that didn’t work out.
Waste of a single, for sure.
Counter factual – grounds into a normal DP.
How does Colon have a 6.00 ERA? He’s done nothing but strike us out!
And Joc’s not even in the lineup, though I wish he were.
Runs, Dodgers, runs. Please get more runs.
Agreed.
Granderson, Wright, Murphy. Scary.
Their lineup is not impressive.
Is that the wine talking?
Wine? No fair!
WBB is enjoying a glass tonight I think.
I shall enjoy it vicariously, then.
13 runs yesterday. I’m impressed. 😉
Not for our Kersh, apparently.
Scary for Anderson and Wood maybe. Getting a little cocky aren’t I.
Hush, son. We don’t want to rattle the chains, do we?
Good point. Their whole lineup is scary…
Then there are the Cubs, waiting. Those kids are scary.
Not a good inning vs. Colon.
Feeling nervous again.
Not scoring more runs is not helping.
Exactly how I feel. May need to take a little stroll or something.
Rusty Puig, sounds like a new mixed drink
Puig is very rusty.
Colon again. They were threatening with DeGrom.
Curve is coming around.
Pun intended I assume
Ha – no it wasn’t. But once I figured out what the pun was it made me laugh that I said that.
Nice to get a full and scoreless three more innings from Kershaw.
Note to Seager. Umpire has been calling that outside pitch a strike all night long
Argh! Two left on! More runs, more runs!
Okay, AGon. Do what you do!
Kike” should be running. Matz isn’t paying attention to him. He ran on first move last time.
Steal second, move to third on Kendrick’s fly ball, score on Agon’s grounder.
DM’s playing conservative again.
AGon probably gets a hit with the infield in.
Counter-factual history.
Agree.
Seeing the replay on that HR. It just hit the top of the fence. Otherwise, Murphy would have been left standing on second at the end of the inning after his double. 🙂
Stupid fence.
Almost wonder if Puig held up thinking he could try and play it off the wall.
Just as I thought to myself – man Kershaw has not given up any…
Murphy had one HR off a LHP all year. He has two off Kershaw.
He’s clutch, doncha know?
Oh rats.
Just back from walking my dog at the park — just like we did last night when the Dodgers score three.
But the difference was Kersh — he had a shutdown inning . . . and he started and allowed the LA rally.
Go, Blue!
Feel free to take him for another spin around the park.
He’ll be happy to hear that prescription!
Whenever Cespedes’ name comes up I somehow always think of Seinfeld and Festivus. And think “a Cespedes for the rest of us”.
https://twitter.com/jerryseinfeld/status/627227843207012352
I honestly don’t recall hearing/seeing that from Jerry. On the other hand, nice to know I have the same humour as a comedic genius.
It was a one-day wonder, and that only in the sports press.
Curve not there yet for Clayton.
Something to look forward to
Indeed!
10-pitch inning. That’s good to see.
Seager. So cool.
Now get these guys out and get back to the offense and keep it up. I’d like about ten runs, please.
Prefer 13 +1
Nice to have Red Thunder come through again!
I bet he loves that he did it against his old team that let him go
Don’t stop now!
I was hoping they wouldn’t leave it at 3
Agon scores from first. Flying around the bases.
Ha!
Justin!
Oh yes!
AGon’s hit: Not handsome but certainly handy.
AGon with a chance to do some damage.
And did!
Seems that he broke his bat.
I’ll buy him a new one
I expect he’d trade a broken bat for an RBI every day.
Okay Kiké let’s show you belong.
Let’s get some runs and quiet the crowd a bit as well.
That was a good inning for Kershaw. Keep your tempo going my friend!
I need a glass of wine. After this inning.
What wine will you be drinking?
Tonight, a NZ Sauvignon Blanc called Nobilo. There are some pretty good wines out of BC, but hard to find here.
It might amuse you that writers for the old National Lampoon, many of whom were Canadian, used to refer to it as “British Bolivia.”
That does amuse me!
Not much of it online, but here’s a sample piece:
Socialist Pulls a Quicky
David Barrett, socialist dictator of Canada’s most western state, British Bolivia, recently called an election. In return for NatLampCo support, the politician allegedly promised: (I) He would get the magazine back onto the racks on the government ferries from whence it was banned for repeated naughtiness; (2) He would “stop wrecking the economy”; (3) He would hang several local merchants who had overcharged an American tourist We support and continue to support this fine socialist.
Just tuning in. A bundle of nerves. But glad to see the Cubbies beat the Cards.
Very nervous. Almost can’t watch.
I know. The playoffs are no picnic sometimes.
1 pitch out. Very helpful.
But Kershaw has already thrown 8 more pitches then Matz.
Hopefully subsequent innings will be smoother/quicker for Kersh.
He does not look smooth so far.
He’s given up more walks in two games than he probably did in two months.
Howie!
Mute yourself, Steiner.
Feeling nervous.
My main hope is for a true Kershawian game.
Kershavian.
Reluctantly I will listen to Steiner as I watch the muted MLBTV feed, but I won’t like it.
I can’t feel sorry for the Cards but, on the other, a third-place team does not belong in the post-season.
Especially third place teams that only won 97 games. Oh wait…
The Dodgers are a fourth place team.
Dodgers are a first-place team.
So, you are pure, but not that pure.
They won their division by eight games.
Cubs win! Cards out. And then there were 7.
Hate having a game run over so we miss the start of the next game (Dodgers) as we did last night. No excuse for that. Actually we didn’t miss, they just started the broadcast on a different Channel, TNT, instead of TBS. I assume they have the right to do that, both channels are owned by same entity etc. The over run happens far too often. Why doesn’t baseball insist that they schedule and run the games entirely on two different channels? It would be smoother and easier for everyone. Even less disruptive to non-baseball-fan-viewers.
They can’t control the channels, but they can control the game times. Those are on MLB. So they could have moved the Cubs-Cards game to an earlier time yesterday (the Dodgers-Mets already started late, at 8:30PM ET, which I imagine is at least an hour if not 1 1/2 hours later than the usual time Mets games start).
Mike P of DoDi perspective on tonight:
“I don’t fault the Dodgers for deciding to go with Clayton Kershaw on three days rest in Game 4. It’s better than relying on Alex Wood, right? And you can complain about how they didn’t go get a better third starter — as though the injuries to Brandon McCarthy or Hyun-jin Ryu never happened, or that David Price hasn’t been a playoff mess of his own, or that Johnny Cueto hasn’t scared the hell out of Royals fans, or that any of it would have been possible without surrendering Corey Seager — but that’s really not relevant right now. All you can do is go with what you’ve got. What the Dodgers have right now is the best pitcher on earth, not fully rested, and with a growing history of playoff failures.”
Continues with a plan for handling CK and other elements of the game. Which is probably better than what DM will come up with.
http://dodgersdigest.com/2015/10/13/the-clayton-kershaw-plan-for-game-4/
I didn’t click on the link but I would be very cautious in letting Kershaw go more than 90 pitches tonight.
Hopefully up about 5-0 when that happens
Meanwhile, from Chutley News Channel: https://twitter.com/BillShaikin/status/653976695398092800
Corrected my embarrassing ALDS Games Five schedule mixup.
John Lackey enjoying an early meltdown at Wrigley.
Could screenwriter Bob Gale have correctly predicted in the movie Back to the Future Part II that the Chicago Cubs would win the 2015 World Series?
I will be a Cubs fan for the rest of the year if the Dodgers can’t get past the Mets.
In principle, no second- or third-place team belongs in the World Series.
Do you want to get rid of the Divisions and just go with the National League and the American League like it used to be?
Deleted. Why bother?
I don’t follow.
Trying to understand WBB’s hates or reason with him about them is an impossible job.
Two divisions in each works. I don’t mind the NLCS.
If it can’t be us, I would love to see a Cubs v Astros world series
DODGERS LINEUP
Kiké Hernandez, cf
Howie Kendrick, 2b
Adrian Gonzalez, 1b
Justin Turner, 3b
Corey Seager, ss
Yasiel Puig, rf
A.J. Ellis, c
Justin Ruggiano, lf
Clayton Kershaw, p
I would be entertained more if Joc were in CF and Kike’ were in left.
I see they have benched Ethier and put in Puig – in a possible elimination game! Reversal from last year!
And yes, I would have liked to seen Joc in cf as well. But I like Ruggs in lf.
Matz is a lefty, ergo no Ethier.
Me too but I’m willing to give it a try. At least Crawford is in Purgatory. Hope that doesn’t get WBB upset…
I ignore imaginary places.
Learning to ignore things is the key to getting along with people and having a happy life.
In certain cases, perhaps, but as a general rule certainly not.
Realized we will have all the “fun” narratives at play today: Kershaw can’t win in the playoffs. Dodgers make rookie pitchers look like Cy Young winning, Hall of Fame players. Dodgers can’t beat winning teams.
I won’t be around for a while as I’m being a taxi service.
Wait. It’s just the NL games today isn’t it? I think the AL plays their game 5’s tomorrow.
Correct.
Yeah, today’s a travel day for the AL.
We should be able to get at least ten comments today from just commenting on this alone until Link comes back.
Well, fudge. I misread the MLB.com Gameday listings. It was 9:30pm!
Mmmm fudge.
Nuts or Plain?
Plain man. Plain all the way.