Game 144, 2017

Dodgers at Giants, 7:15 PM PT, TV: SPNLA, NBCS BA

RHP Kenta Maeda (12-6, 4.02 ERA) takes the mound against RHP Chris Stratton (2-3, 4.10 ERA) in San Francisco.

Maeda allowed one unearned run over five innings on Wednesday against the D-backs. He’s 3-1 with a 4.58 ERA in four career starts against the Giants. Stratton has both started and relieved this season; he’s been much better as a starter. He’s got an 8.59 ERA in relief. As a starter he’s made five starts and has gone 2-1 with a 2.28 ERA since the All Star break.

A sad note: former Dodger (and nine other teams’) scout Mel Didier died Sunday night at home in Phoenix. He was 90 years old. His most memorable find was probably his analysis which showed that the Athletics’ Dennis Eckersley liked to throw backdoor sliders when the count was full and first base was open. He told the Dodgers’ hitters that before Game One of the 1988 World Series. What was the count to Kirk Gibson when he hit that game-winning home run? 3-2. What was the pitch? A backdoor slider.

Today in Dodgers’ history:

  • 1959 The Dodgers end Elroy Face’s consecutive win streak at 22 with a 5-4 victory over the Pirates. The reliever, who will end the season with an 18-1 record, is beaten by Chuck Churn, the winner of only three major league career victories.
  • 1966 In his first major league at-bat, John Miller homers off Lee Stange in the second inning of the Yankees’ 4-2 victory over Boston at Fenway Park. The 22 year-old left fielder, whose total of 10 hits in his 32-game career will include just two round-trippers, will become the only player to hit home runs in his first and last major league plate appearance when he goes deep as a pinch-hitter for the Dodgers in his final turn at bat in 1966.
  • 1998 Kevin Malone is named as the Dodgers’ general manager, replacing Tommy Lasorda, who is promoted to Senior Vice President of the team. The “new sheriff in town” tenure in Los Angeles will be marked by the signing of high profile players to huge contracts, including Kevin Brown’s seven-year deal making the right-hander the first $100 million man in baseball.

Historical note of more than passing interest to Cody Bellinger fans: today in 1956 Frank Robinson ties Wally Berger’s 1930 National League record for home runs by a rookie for home runs with his 38th in the Reds’ 11-5 victory over the Giants at Polo Grounds. A’s first baseman Mark McGwire established the major league mark for freshman homers with 49 round-trippers in 1989. Bellinger has 36 with 18 games to go in the season.

Lineup when available.

Granderson again? Why not Ethier in LF? And since A-Gon had to have an epidural shot four days ago, why not Cody at 1B?

Roberts, I’m beginning to question your judgment.

  • Bob_Hendley

    Sorely regret not being able to fully participate with my fellow community members over the past couple weeks of nosedive. Will be able to make it home and be in the stadium for the 3 games series against the Nats to cheer our boys on!

    • WBBsAs

      *Swat the Gnats!

  • John_from_Aus

    Bellinger in centre field, interesting

    • Doc going with the older players with Gonzales, Utley, Granderson, and Grandal. If he wants old, why not put Ethier in LF.

      I know Joc isn’t getting base hits but either is Granderson. Joc is getting walks so it isn’t like the team needs Granderson for his walks. At least LoFo isn’t in the game again against a righty.

      • No argument, but I think Grandal is 29, so not the grizzled vet the other guys are. I also wondered (see above) why Granderson rather than Ethier.

  • WBBsAs

    I won’t be around the next few days because of the Gnatblackout, and because I refuse to listen to the insufferable Steiner.

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    Two & 1/2 thoughts:

    Last time AGon played 1B and Cody OF, the ROY was injured.
    Granderson?!!! Leading off?!!!!

    Still, may it be productive and may the pitchers give up less than the bats score!

    • I bit my tongue and will not comment on my thoughts on Grandy.

    • Howard Fox

      We don’t want to over-reach here. With this lineup, it’s like we are spotting the Jints a few runs, just to be sporting.
      Granderson leading off, well, this way we start the game with one out. It’s better than him in the middle of the lineup to kill a rally. Oh wait, what am I thinking…rally? These days a rally is stringing together a couple hits, a force play, and an error for a run.

  • scooplew

    Roberts’ lack of judgment and common sense is worse than the losing streak. Granderson is hitting barely .100 as a Dodger. He’d have to go 8-for-8 to reach the Mendoza Line.

    • Bob_in_Vegas

      I’m wondering if the FO is soo confident about postseason that they want to justify their deal and want him to play.

  • scooplew

    Doesn’t Ethier have three hits in his last three ABs including a pinch-hit HR? So why isn’t he starting?

    • scooplew

      I checked. He does have three hits in his last three ABs.

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    Turned on the radio 4 minutes after gametime — and they were in commercials.
    Rolled over already? No, rain delay — YAHOO!
    But rain delay = longer time before end of game.

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    Doc quoted on radio as saying they’re playing Granderson because he has to get ready for postseason.
    But isn’t that forcing the issue? If he can’t play, he can’t play!
    Of course, managers have to remain positive, so perhaps he was saying he’ll play to prove if he can play in the post. (Same with Darvish, in my opinion — not that the others are proving their case.)
    I think we’ll know the panic button has been pushed when he doesn’t start.

    • But, but he doesn’t have to get ready for the post season if he isn’t on the post season team. He’s a rental. He’s some other teams’ veteran. Start Ethier instead, He is our vet or better yet, get Joc ready for the playoffs.

      • Bob_in_Vegas

        If he was playing like Manny, all of that wouldn’t make a difference.
        But he’s not.
        I think Doc gives him another game or two, then sits him.
        Depends on how much FO wants HFA. But they’ve been losing at home as well, so perhaps that doesn’t make that much difference.

        • scooplew

          I think that Roberts is so stubborn he will continue to put Granderson in the lineup regardless. The worse case could be that Granderson goes 1-for-4 with another homer, and then we will be stuck with him through October 1.

          • RBI

            I know how tempting it is to put the blame on Doc, but this kind of epic failure creates enough blame to spread around, and spread around again. Plus, we had an inexplicably long run of W’s, enough that we still have the best record in baseball. I hate the way we have managed to cram all our L’s into a terrible sequence of failures, but I just have to believe – at least today and don’t ask me why – that we will right this ship. And if we don’t, I still love this team, and you guys, and baseball. Okay. Rant run out.

          • scooplew

            You have more patience and are more sanguine that I am. I know that I should just chill for awhile.

          • Bob_in_Vegas

            I don’t blame Doc. I think he has to always put a good face forward, to motivate his players. I go back to what I was saying probably after the Verlander game: win, THEN experiment. (Whether it’s innate pessimism or following proper accounting procedures of chickens, but I don’t like taking anything for granted.)

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    K-urtis.
    Not doing anything to help his cause.

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    Rain delay — Mother Nature wasn’t happy with Granderson,’s AB either.

    • RBI

      Does that mean we lose? (Weak attempt at humor.)

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    Puig is apparently more proactive with the groundskeepers than the umps.

  • scooplew

    Roberts on Granderson. This is downright scary. Roberts wants to get Granderson “right”:

    http://m.dodgers.mlb.com/news/article/253769534/dodgers-dave-roberts-plans-a-set-lineup-soon/

    • RBI

      Possible understatement of the season: “obviously, we haven’t been sharp…”

  • scooplew

    No eyes. Is there another delay?

    • RBI

      Otherwise Known As rain reprieve.

      • Bob_in_Vegas

        Wash away the sludge of September?

        • RBI

          I like it! Alliteration!

          • Bob_in_Vegas

            Something we will try NOT to remember.

  • WinnipegDave

    I’m so tired tonight. Ha! I even fell asleep after typing that first sentence.
    Don’t know how I’m going to make it to the end of the game.

    • RBI

      I am still on the East Coast. Babysitting grandkids so up for a little longer but at this rate I may not make it to Seager’s at bat! 2-2 D-backs and Rockies.

      • Bob_in_Vegas

        Just another reason for the game to be called.
        The other is to guarantee the Dodgers don’t lose today.

        • scooplew

          Any indication on when and if the game will resume? If not, Granderson’s strikeout is washed away.

          • Bob_in_Vegas

            On the books, not in our minds.

      • scooplew

        Best that you get some sleep. I expect that the grandkids will get you up early.

        • RBI

          I agree. Soon, Scoop, soon.

          • scooplew

            I doubt if I will stay up for this game should it resume, and I have three hours that you do not.

  • RBI

    It’s kind of perfect that every time I check Gameday, Granderson has struck out…like Grandy-hog Day.

    • Bob_in_Vegas

      Ha!
      What a nightmare!

  • scooplew

    Diamondbacks-Rockies 2-2 after 7. Greinke was pulled for a pinch-hitter in the bottom of the 7th.

    • RBI

      5-2 Rockies!

      • Bob_in_Vegas

        Go, CO!

  • scooplew

    I think that Seager just set a Dodger record: most time in the on-deck circle (figuratively, not literally) at generic telephone stadium.

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    RBI, you mentioned about going for postseason tickets.
    I was also planning to go, clearing my schedule for the potential home games, based on LA having HFA.
    Have you — or anyone — heard about when the lottery for buying tickets will happen? I believe MLB has to give teams permission to sell tickets.
    Then I’ll have to assess my availability, based on the HFA situation.

    • RBI

      I will let you know as soon as I hear anything. Maybe we can coordinate and sit nearby!

      • Bob_in_Vegas

        Sounds good!

  • scooplew

    Arenado just hit a three-run homer for the Rockies with two outs in the top of the 8th. It is now Colorado 5, Arizona 2.

    • Bob_in_Vegas

      Go, CO!

    • RBI

      I suppose we can be grateful we gave CO some confidence, and the Pads have drained a little of the D-Backs’.

  • scooplew

    Arizona got two in the bottom of the 8th and left two on. Rockies’ lead sliced to 5-4 entering the 9th.

  • John_from_Aus

    Rockies Win!

    • scooplew

      What time is it where you are, John?

      • John_from_Aus

        3.36pm Tuesday here

        • WinnipegDave

          Looks like you will get afternoon/evening baseball coming your way.

  • WinnipegDave

    Phew and ugh.
    Phew the D-backs lose.
    Ugh that it has come to cheering for other teams to help the Dodgers.

    • scooplew

      Who would have thought two weeks ago that we’d be scoreboard watching?

      • WinnipegDave

        I’m mean I know this happens every year. It just feels more degrading this year somehow.

        • scooplew

          Yes, it certainly does.

  • scooplew

    No eyes. Any indication when and if the Dodgers-Giants game will resume? Is it raining hard there?

  • WinnipegDave

    Are they ever going to call this game? Feels like all we have been doing as Dodger fans the last 2 or 3 weeks has been waiting. Endless waiting for something positive to happen.

  • WinnipegDave

    10:50 west coast start time.

    Like I’m going to stay up for that.

    Maybe I’ll set my alarm for 4 in the morning and catch the last inning.

    • Bob_in_Vegas

      I vote for sleep.

      • WinnipegDave

        Early returns are in on that vote. And it appears that sleep has defeated baseball by a landslide.

        • Bob_in_Vegas

          Good for you! And hopefully you’ll awaken to good news, but either way you’ll be rested.

  • WinnipegDave

    It’s like the Dodgers are playing a new game except they only get 26 outs to work with.

    • Bob_in_Vegas

      Which is how we felt with Granderson leading off anyway.

  • John_from_Aus

    even though the game is a friendly time for me, (3.55pm) I am about to have parent teacher interviews for an hour or so. Hopefully there is good news when I can next check in

    • Bob_in_Vegas

      You will probably be the only EF standard-bearer, so carry on, John!

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    Apparently the majority of fans left are pulling for the Blue . . . they made the trek, they wanna see the game!

  • WinnipegDave

    At least the Dodgers have already driven out the Giants starting pitcher.

    • Bob_in_Vegas

      And brought in the seagulls, who are showing this is for the birds.

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    Terrible thought — hope there isn’t any weather-related injury in this game!

    • WinnipegDave

      I was just thinking about that too. Especially Bellinger in his first start in CF.

      • Bob_in_Vegas

        Yes! Deja vu all over again.

  • And the game begins at 10:50PM PDT with LHP Ty Blach, 8-12, 4.81 ERA taking over for Stratton on the mound. Walks Turner after inducing Seager to ground out to Posey at 1B. And Bellingerr pops to Sandoval at 3B.

    • WinnipegDave

      What time is it for you right now Link?

      Just checked and see it is a very reasonable 8pm. Enjoy an evening of baseball there Link.

      • 8:02PM Monday.

        • Bob_in_Vegas

          11:03pm PDT
          How about you, Dave?

          • WinnipegDave

            1:04am CST Tuesday

          • No Daylight Savings in Canada?

          • WinnipegDave

            Yep. My mistake. Late night typo.

          • Bob_in_Vegas

            DFS — Dodger Fatigue Syndrome

          • WinnipegDave

            Ha! So true.

  • Sports Illustrated cover jinx strikes again. Az Cardinals RB David Johnson was on my edition of the NFL Preview issue. Promptly sprained/dislocated his left wrist yesterday in Game One, probably out 8-12 weeks.

    • Bob_in_Vegas

      We need them to do a story being really negative about the Dodgers.

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    Here we go again — 2-run HR for SF.

    • WinnipegDave

      I just can’t do this tonight. Too painful seeing it go down in SF.
      I’m out.

      • Bob_in_Vegas

        I’m not far behind you.

        • Living in NH allows me to call it a night before the game starts or after one time through the lineup. Last night I wisely chose before the game started.

  • Maeda still starts for Dodgers. Gets Pence, gives up single to Panik and HR to Span. 2 – 0 Giants, bottom of the first.

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    Bats have it tough enough without a deficit.
    Hopefully Kenta rights this like Rich did . . . then the bats need to come alive.

  • It seems like every game in this streak the starter has given up runs in the first. I know that’s not altogether true, but it’s close to absolute.

    • Bob_in_Vegas

      If you’re not feeling negative before the game begins, that would definitely do it.

  • scooplew

    I waited more than 3 1/2 hours for this? Good night.

    • Bob_in_Vegas

      Pity the Dodger fans who went up there and stuck it out.

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    Curiouser and worser . . . Forsythe pinch-hitting for Chase in the 2nd!

    • Lefty pitching may have something to do with it.

      • Bob_in_Vegas

        That’s what radio said. It’s just that Forsythe is one of the two names I don’t want to hear called . . . yes, the other is Granderson.

  • ANOTHER HR. Holy Cow.

    • Bob_in_Vegas

      I was gonna say the same thing, minus the Harry Carey touch.

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    Kenta is now officially worse than Rich yesterday.
    Completely moot if bats do nothing.

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    Vegas radio station didn’t pick up the game after the delay — not sure if that’s a statement from them or someone blew it (past history leans to that).

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    I vaguely remember Dodger games when they had a deficit and eagerly worked to overcome it.

  • Regression to mean, says Phil Taylor of the Dodgers’ slide.

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    The pitcher and the leadoff hitter come up — who gets the hit? Hint: Granderson is the leadoff hitter.

  • John_from_Aus

    I shouldn’t have checked back in

    • Bob_in_Vegas

      Like Will Hunting, keep telling yourself “It’s not my fault.”

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    Since I’m trying to cut down on masochistic tendencies, I’m turning it off. It’s up to you, Link & John.

    • NO! Don’t leave it up to US! The responsibility is too great!

      • John_from_Aus

        but I’m so far away

        • scooplew

          Not even Carole King could help us tonight.

          • Bob_in_Vegas

            Ha!
            Great musical about her, “Beautiful.”

          • scooplew

            I hope it comes back. Missed it the first time around.

          • Bob_in_Vegas

            It was the surprise of my Broadway series last year. We have this great new venue in Vegas, The Smith Center. I have season tickets and that was one I really wasn’t looking forward to and it was probably my favorite.
            Definitely see it if you get a chance.
            Now I really must get to bed (especially seeing how me turning it off didn’t change their fortunes).

      • Bob_in_Vegas

        I must follow my own (and Polonius’) advice: “To thine own self be true.”

  • I actually got onto Twitter: #Dodgers “Starters are making you swim uphill every game & none of the usual strokes (fly, breast, crawl, back) work. This is unbelievable.”

    • Bob_in_Vegas

      Nice.

  • scooplew

    I decided not to go to sleep yet. Wish that I had. It looks like another shellacking tonight. This is against a Giants team that was outscored 21-2 in its last two games.

  • scooplew

    If we lose tonight, the streak reaches 11, which would be the longest since the Dodgers moved west in 1958.

    • Bob_in_Vegas

      Historical.
      Hysterical.

  • Now Pence triples and Panik grounds out driving him in. The freakin’ Giants are 37 games back of us!

  • scooplew

    I hope that RBI is sound asleep.

    • RBI

      Alas…keep trying. Keep failing. Just like…

  • John_from_Aus

    i’m on the road in around 25 minutes, so I will tolerate until then

  • scooplew

    How many 4-0 deficits have we had lately?

    • LOTS. During the last homestand we gave up at least four runs in one inning in five different games.

  • John_from_Aus

    I can see the headlines now, “World Famous Dodgers blog goes silent mid game, as contributors either lose interest or simply just fall asleep”

    • Bob_in_Vegas

      Kind of like the team itself.

    • Who’d write the headline? 😉

      • John_from_Aus

        You’re the boss 🙂

        • But if I’ve fallen asleep…

          • John_from_Aus

            I’ll write it tomorrow

      • Bill Plaschke

  • John_from_Aus

    dare I say, a possible rally

  • Even a hit to the outfield and it only scores one run. This team is dipped in molasses.

  • And another single run. One better than none, of course.

  • scooplew

    Wake up, RBI, wake up.

  • John_from_Aus

    wake up, wake up everyone!! Tie game

  • RBI

    Bless my soul. A ralley. Now I can sleep.

  • John_from_Aus

    I was hoping for the Cody of old there

    • Weren’t we all.

      • scooplew

        2-0 pitch from a righty.

  • John_from_Aus

    I’m on the road shortly, i’ll have to check in later

  • Ravin in, Avilan out. “We have 13 pitchers, let’s use ’em all!”

    • scooplew

      Ravin worries me.

      • The way things are going, they ALL worry me.

        • scooplew

          Actually, believe it or not, we are now carrying 19 pitchers, including starters.

  • Puig, Gonzalez. Grandal coming up. 45 HRs among them.

    • scooplew

      Add one to that total, please.

  • scooplew

    Time for us to start hitting some homers tonight.

  • Puig!

  • Crick, Pence, Panik due up. On Twitter somebody said the Dodgers should bring in Watson to pitch to Crick.

  • scooplew

    Ravin and his high ERA.

  • scooplew

    Hey, Roberts, nota bene, a sacrifice bunt.

  • Oh, drat it all.

  • Double drat it all.

  • scooplew

    If Ravin and Cingrani are auditioning for the post-season, they aren’t likely for a second call.

  • Gotta go. Back later.

  • Back sooner! Turner doubles Seager in, tie game at 6

  • John_from_Aus

    This is tourture

  • John_from_Aus

    You are not going to be happy when you all wake up 🙁

    • Bob_Hendley

      Ha” I woke up here in Italy and the game was still on! Yes, not a happy camper, but we will get them, uh, today!

  • Roberts said Chase Utley “has earned” increased playing time at second base, where a struggling Logan Forsythe has most of the starts. (Ya think!!) Austin Barnes could similarly take playing time from catcher Yasmani Grandal.(Ya think!!!) And left field is a scramble, with Granderson and Joc Pederson now joined by Andre Ethier, looking to duplicate another late-season emergence after missing most of a second season if his back holds up.

    Ethier probably still has lots of fans so starting him would please them.
    Granderson’s fans live in another city.
    Joc still has fans and would be the only one of the three that could be on the team next year.

    • Howard Fox

      Yeah, Roberts said he is about to settle on the lineup for the postseason. Not sure what this means, exactly.
      11 straight. I know many do not believe in momentum, either good or bad. I, for one, am a firm believer. You win alot, you believe in yourself, you continue to win. Pretty simple to me.
      This team is toast. And I put it all on Roberts and the management. You make one of the great runs in baseball history, then 30 days out, you break up some of the parts and insert players into the lineup who should not be starting, maybe should not even be on the team. You trade at the deadline for parts to improve the team for the run to the title. Not sure how much better you could get than 56 of 67, but so be it. Now that things are changed, maybe 20% of the mix of players has changed, we are where we are. New players who had nothing to do with our success are brought in and awarded key roles. I just don’t get it, I’m sorry. I know all the new fangled ways of evaluating players means something and is the future, but to my way of thinking, a player gets hot and is hitting, you play him, period. Likewise, a player cannot figure out which end of the bat to hold, you don’t play him, numbers be damned. I just don’t get it.

  • scooplew

    Just awakened and learned of the latest loss, one that took nearly seven hours from start to finish. Beyond belief and comprehension. Went to bed at 6-6 after 5 2/3 innings. Now see that we not only didn’t get another hit, but that Roberts, as promised, used Baez again in an important situation and that Baez gave up the winning run. Baez’ ERA in September is now 20.25. The game started with Granderson striking out and ended with Forsythe grounding out. How apropos. These two have been particularly inept. Roberts’ stubbornness has made Mattingly look like a piker in that area. I agree with the two posts just before mine, by Bumsrap and Howard Fox.

    • Bob_in_Vegas

      What a truly painful game, for the team as well as for us fans. Your post clued me in on what happened, Scoop. Thanks for that.

      • scooplew

        You/re welcome. Sure hope Kershaw starts to turn this team around tonight.

        • Bob_in_Vegas

          Amen.

    • Bob_Hendley

      There is a method to Doc’s madness, you won’t have Baez to blame once the playoffs start.

      • Bob_in_Vegas

        I DO believe in Doc. Not sure how much input he had in getting Granderson, but if it wasn’t explicit, it’s definitely implied that he play the guy they just acquired.

        • Bob_Hendley

          Joc pretty much forced the FOs hand, that and Dre’s extended convalescence. Don’t think that Grandy’s performance has been make or break during the losing streak, particularly given the options. Doc does have the “luxury” of trying to play him out of his slump. He does have a babip of .091 after all.

  • Bob_Hendley

    I actually admire Doc for sticking with the plan to use this period to experiment and audition various players for the playoffs, and continuing to publicly back his players, instead of panicking. Of course, would have been nice to get some wins and since I am traveling I haven’t had to endure all of this by watching the games as you all have.

    • Bob_in_Vegas

      I agree with the latter part of your first sentence, but still stick with what I said when this all started — win the division first, THEN experiment/audition.

      • Bob_Hendley

        Not happy with how things have gone, but the probabilities for the Dodgers to win the Division were and still are, despite the losing streak, at 100% according to Fangraphs and Baseball Prospectus. Magic number at 10 with 20 to play ( i. e. 5 Dodger wins and 5 Snake loses). HFA is more of a horse race with magic number at 16 over the Nats with the 3 game series coming up. Same number vis-a-vis the Spiders. Highest probability Hillary had was 85%.

        • Bob_in_Vegas

          So stats say this disaster won’t hurt their chances of winning the division.
          But what does it do to them and their belief in themselves and each other?
          BTW, not sure how anything can be 100% certain, especially when we’re dealing with humans in competition. Look at all the “David vs. Goliath” match-ups since . . . David and Goliath.

          • Bob_Hendley

            It’s the probability 3 weeks ago and now. Things can change of course and when it gets down to 85%, I will start sweating along with you. At least the Dodgers don’t now think of themselves as Goliath. Wondering if an 11 game losing streak might have been better than an 11 game winning streak? I reserve the right to change my. If it goes to 12. 😉

          • Cleveland now at 19 wins in a row. We will be able to compare the fates of two teams with opposite streaks soon enough.

            Right now it is more believable that AZ will lose 10 games than … the Dodgers will win 5.

          • Bob_in_Vegas

            That’s an interesting benefit from this — I don’t think ANYONE thinks of the Dodgers as Goliath anymore. I prefer to go in under the radar and surprise, than to have all the expectations and nowhere to go but down.

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    At halftime of Sunday Night Football (at least there, my team beat the Giants), Al or Cris said New York’s defensive squad will probably be getting on the offense about the game.
    I wonder if that’s happening with the Blue — if bats are blaming pitchers, or vice versa.
    Before, they were excited with the many different ways they would win . . . now they’re probably waiting for the different ways they will lose.
    What a great performance by the bats, tying it up three times. But then they went MIA
    At least no one got hurt. Physically, anyway.

    • Bob_Hendley

      With ERA during the streak at above 6, and runs scored at below 3, don’t think that anyone is looking further than their own nose.

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    Back in the real world (and filed under “Duh!”), here’s a victory that truly matters: “The Senate has approved a resolution condemning white supremacists, neo-Nazis and other hate groups following a white-nationalist rally in Virginia that descended into deadly violence.” http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/senate-approves-measure-condemning-white-nationalists/ar-AArP82W?li=BBnb7Kz
    It was approved unanimously.

  • Bob_Hendley

    Logan is a favorite scapegoat around here, but over the past week he has hit better than either Bellinger or Seager.

  • Bob_Hendley

    “Late and close” is a clutch stat that has been used to gauge Grandal’s contribution to the team. Might surprise that his performance, bad as it is in those situations relative to his overall performance, is comparable to Seager’s

    • scooplew

      How many ABs for each?

      • Bob_Hendley

        82 PA for both.

    • Sounds like Doc can add a few names to the list of players he pinch hits for in the late innings.

      • Bob_Hendley

        Seager is still better than most options, Grandal with Barnes far from it.

        • Are you arguing with yourself?

          • Bob_Hendley

            Not saying that Grandal is good, but that Seager relative to his overall performance has been just as bad in these situations. I don’t think that the stat defines their contributions to the team, however.

          • WBBsAs

            Grandal is good, but very streaky.

          • Bob_Hendley

            Agree. Was referring to his performance in this “clutch” situation for which he has been dragged over the coals here saying that it sums up his lack of contribution to the club. I disagree with the notion that it is the sole indicator on which he should be measured. Further, that if this is the measure, then Seager would be considered as well as a negative for the club.

          • WBBsAs

            Given the depth of catching in the organization, and Grandal’s pending free agency (2019, I think), it might make sense to sell high on him and then give Barnes the No. 1 job.

          • Bob_Hendley

            FO has a lot more options now than they did three years ago at that position.

          • WBBsAs

            A.J. was never an “impact player,” but it’s sad that the previous regime wasted his prime years while signing retreads for the position. He could have been a solid No. 1 catcher for several seasons.

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