Game 143, 2017

Rockies at Dodgers, 1:10 PM PT, TV: SPNLA, TBS (out-of-market only), ATT SportsNet-RM

The Rockies ask RHP Tyler Chatwood (6-12, 4.88 ERA) to complete the sweep, facing the Dodgers’ LHP Rich Hill (9-7, 3.67 ERA). The two teams meet at the end of the season for a final three-game series.

Chatwood has a 10.57 ERA in two starts against the Dodgers this season over 7 2/3 innings. He’s only started two games since July 15 when he injured his right calf in the first inning of a game against the Mets and he’s expected to throw between 60-70 pitches. Hill’s last start was a good one against the D-Backs on Monday when he gave up two runs on two hits over six innings. The bullpen collapsed and the Dodgers eventually lost that game 13-0 while giving up four home runs to J.D. Martinez.

On this day in Dodgers’ history:

  • 1992 Cardinals vice chairman Fred Kuhlman tells reporters that a “security check” had revealed serious issues involving the two out-of-state investors, Vince Piazza and Vincent N. Tirendi, part of the six-man group trying to buy the Giants and move the franchise to Florida. The candid reply to the press will cost baseball more than $6 million to settle a suit that includes a letter of apology from acting Commissioner Bud Selig to Vince Piazza, whose son Mike started his major league career with the Dodgers nine days before his father’s rejection by the MLB owners.
  • 1974 Lou Brock ties and then breaks Maury Wills’s 12 year-old single season stolen base record with his 104th and 105th swipes. The Cardinal left fielder’s thievery against the Phillies doesn’t help when the Redbirds drop the Busch Stadium contest, 8-2.

Lineup when available.

  • We get Granderson in RF today and Ethier in LF. LoFo again at second.

    Instead of keeping everybody happy, why not DFA Granderson.

    • scooplew

      I think DFA Granderson would make everybody, but Granderson, happy.

  • scooplew

    We will win today. I just placed in the recycle bin my Sports Illustrated with the Dodgers on the cover.

    • That’ll do it.

    • WinnipegDave

      If that works, you may be kicking yourself for not doing it sooner. Like 2 weeks ago.

  • Kershaw’s start moved up a day.

    • WinnipegDave

      Strategic move or a sign of pressure/panic?

  • Howard Fox

    A run in, bases loaded, no one out, first inning. Ouch.

  • WinnipegDave

    I wonder: Has a team with 90+ wins ever lost 10 straight games?

  • WBBsAs

    CarGo helps out Hill.

  • Whatever Honeycutt said seems to have worked!

  • WinnipegDave

    Glad to see the bases were left loaded. Very Dodger-esque.

  • Howard Fox

    He probably said….throw strikes dammit.

  • scooplew

    Regardless of how the crew behaves or whether all hatches are properly closed, the captain of the ship is responsible for getting the vessel through rough waters. Roberts is showing an inability to do that. Nine losses in a row, 14 in 15 games call for some strong action, which Roberts has failed to take. Suggestions: Make Barnes the first-string catcher, keep Granderson on the bench, start Forsythe very sparingly, don’t start Hernandez, don’t move Bellinger around the field, start Puig every day, sacrifice bunt when the situation merits it, hit-and-run, and stop continuing to utter basically the same thing loss after loss. Here is an idea: Put the names of the eight starters for a particular game (not the pitcher) into a hat and draw the names out one at a time, and then bat them in that order. Do something to shake things up.

  • Will we ever knock in runners again?

    • WinnipegDave

      I recall that went hand in hand with extra bases hits like doubles and HR’s.

  • John_from_Aus

    Wow, just tuned in to see that we could have been in one of those all too common 0-4 score lines we have managed to get ourselves into lately.

    • WinnipegDave

      Yeah. Only being down by 1 feels like a win.

  • WinnipegDave

    Granderdon gets on base.

    • scooplew

      Stop the press at the Winnipeg Free Press and the Winnipeg Sun! (Your city still has two newspapers?)

      • WinnipegDave

        Ha – Good work Scoop. Yep – still 2 papers.

        • scooplew

          That is nice to hear. There are few cities these days with two daily newspapers. When I was a youngster in NYC there were seven dailies. Think of the extensive coverage that the Dodgers (and Giants and Yankees) received. There were days where my dad would buy three or more.

          • WinnipegDave

            That’s a lot of ink!

          • Think of the jobs!

          • scooplew

            Yes. There were many more jobs in journalism in those days than now throughout the newspaper industry, not just for reporters and editors. I spent 27 years as a reporter and editor.

          • Grins. I was a paperboy delivering the no-longer extant Washington Star in DC. Those count too.

          • WinnipegDave

            I delivered the aforementioned Winnipeg Free Press for several years.

  • WinnipegDave

    Taylor scorched that one right to Arenando.

  • scooplew

    Two on and one out in the first = no runs. Two on and one out in the second = no runs. The Rockies pitcher isn’t fooling many folks. I think we will break through in a big way today.

  • WinnipegDave

    Andre looking like a kid out there (in a good way).

  • scooplew

    Can’t let this game slip away. Need to score in the bottom of the third.

  • WinnipegDave

    Down by 2. Maybe the Dodgers can still come back.

  • WinnipegDave

    Let’s try this 2 runners on thing but with 2 outs and see how it works.

    • WinnipegDave

      Nope. Same result.

    • scooplew

      The same as two on with one out.

      • WinnipegDave

        Well there’s still 2 on with no outs. Maybe that could work.

  • WinnipegDave

    Can you imagine the Dodgers not only winning but winning a laugher?
    The last time they won by more than 3 runs was Aug 15 when they beat CWS 6-1.

    • scooplew

      Wow, nearly a month ago.

  • WinnipegDave

    Double play! Or should be.

    • WinnipegDave

      Great catch by Barnes!

  • WinnipegDave

    Lots of pitches for Hill already.

  • WinnipegDave

    LoFo trying to flex his HR muscles again. Warning track power today.

  • WinnipegDave

    Dodgers trying something different by only leaving on runner on base that inning.

  • scooplew

    We go out so meekly, so often, so sickeningly.

  • WBBsAs

    When times are bad, Steiner makes them worse. These are times that demand Vin, but I’d settle for Joe Davis.

  • WinnipegDave

    Nice play by Taylor to make the catch and save a run.

    • WBBsAs

      Try not to parrot Steiner’s talking points.

      • WinnipegDave

        ??

        • WBBsAs

          You’re saying something obvious that he’s already repeated half a dozen times.

          • scooplew

            Uncalled for.

          • scooplew

            I think we are all feeling frustrated. Perhaps Garvey and Sutton should tangle again in the locker room to shake things up.

          • WinnipegDave

            Ha!

          • WinnipegDave

            First – no one is commenting much.
            Second – I wasn’t listening to Steiner.

          • WinnipegDave

            Upon reflection WBB – I actually get your point. I will try and slow down on the obvious comments. No hard feelings.

          • WBBsAs

            Sorry, but Steiner only makes bad things worse.

          • WinnipegDave

            No I totally get it. I really wasn’t listening to him but it was not much of a comment to post. As I say no hard feelings at all.

            Plus it is hard to follow this team right at this moment so we are all feeling a bit tense.

  • WinnipegDave

    OK time to stop kidding around now. Let’s score a run.

  • scooplew

    Granderson.

  • HLKLA

    I knew we were losing because the first thing that popped up on the Dodgers web page was a highlight of Barnes’ double play. Usually a bad sign.

    • WinnipegDave

      Although it was a pretty sweet play.

  • WBBsAs

    Buehler throws a strike down the middle of the plate, and it’s called a ball.

    • RBI

      Twice, according to Gameday.

      • WinnipegDave

        It’s great watching him pitch though.

      • WBBsAs

        The most blatant missed strike call I’ve ever seen.

        • WinnipegDave

          It was shockingly right down the middle.

  • scooplew

    Going to take a nap. We will be better in San Francisco; we can’t be worse.

  • RBI

    Checking in while on a train coming into Penn Station. No light at the end of the tunnel, I see.

    • WinnipegDave

      The light is coming from behind this stalled train. Objects in rear view are closer than they appear.

    • Sneaking in train humor I see.

  • WinnipegDave

    Please let’s get a ground ball double play.

    • WinnipegDave

      Ok. So that’s a no then.

  • WBBsAs

    Goodnight.

  • RBI

    Ump not cutting rookie Buehler any slack at all.

  • WinnipegDave

    Rough go kid. (Buehler)

  • RBI

    Gameday cut out. How bad is it?

    • WinnipegDave

      The worst. GS HR.

      • RBI

        Oh man. Well, maybe THIS is our bottom.

        • WinnipegDave

          I have no words.

          • RBI

            Mine are all unprintable.

          • What did you think of Kingman’s performance Mr. Lasorda?

  • WinnipegDave

    I’m stepping out for a few minutes.

  • RBI

    There are worse things in life. Death. Death is worse.

    • WBBsAs
      • RBI

        Fabulous.

        • scooplew

          Woke up from a short nap. Just looked on Gameday. I don’t remember having a nightmare.
          Regarding death, was it Vince Lombardi who said that death is worse than losing because you don’t have to live with death?

  • 5 times in this home stand they’ve allowed four runs in a single inning, if I heard Monday correctly. Only 3 times all year until this period.

  • I wouldn’t believe this if I wasn’t hearing/seeing it. Are we sure this is the same team that got to 90 wins faster than anyone?

    • John_from_Aus

      100 is now looking a bit shaky

  • WinnipegDave

    This is so hard to take.
    Painful.

  • WinnipegDave

    Verdugo!

    • WinnipegDave

      Only need to go back to back to back to back to back to back to back to back.

      But no baby anywhere has that much back.

    • John_from_Aus

      only need 7 more like it

  • WinnipegDave

    How stupid would it be if the Dodgers score 4 or 5 runs this inning?

  • scooplew

    Verdugo, Hill. Wanted to say that for a while. It has meaning if you live in L.A. Or not.

    • WinnipegDave

      We have a Garbage Hill in Winnipeg. Not that he pitched badly today.

      • scooplew

        Southern California has a community called Verdugo Hills.

        • WinnipegDave

          That really is a much nicer combination.

  • scooplew

    How often have we reached 10 hits in a game in these last 16 games (including today)?

    • Bob_in_Vegas

      I think in AZ, but not since.
      There were several with five or less.

  • scooplew

    Lead down to nine.

  • WinnipegDave

    I’m sure the fans in San Fran will be very sympathetic towards the Dodgers. Probably will cheer if they do well and give a standing ovation if they win.

    • scooplew

      It will make their awful season if they beat us.

      • Bob_in_Vegas

        They can’t wait, I’m sure.

      • WinnipegDave

        Exactly.

  • scooplew

    Have we ever had a winless homestand of any length before?

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    Buehler is definitely pitching like a Dodger right now.

    • WBBsAs

      Buehler suffered some of the worst ball-strike calls I’ve ever seen.

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    New SI cover: Worse. Collapse. Ever.

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    Kennedy said, well, they’re still playing over .600 baseball — others have said something similar.
    But they’re not. Their record is that, but right now, they are playing .000 baseball. Just take a couple of days off a record the forfeit?

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    I did my part. I was conducting a class and didn’t check in at all until I got to my car and Mo was talking about the wholesale changes in the top of the 9th — but I didn’t get a score or indication of the score (PERHAPS the Dodgers had a HUGE lead and were able to play everyone else?).
    Then he said something about tomorrow being another day.
    Heck, we’ve been hearing that a LOT lately!
    I saw from comments that AZ won again so winning the division is not guaranteed.
    Frankly, I’m not even going to look up the HFA situation because they can’t win at home, either.

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    Things CAN get worse — there won’t be many voices cheering for LA in SF, so the glee in their voices will be painful. Maybe it will be inspiring for the Blue.

    Sorry about all the separate posts — making up for lost game (so to speak) . . . tho Rich acquitted himself well, looks like the usual suspects are to blame — the bats. (Tho minus 8th & 9th inning relievers and the bottom of the 9th MAY have been interesting — we’ll never know.)

  • Roberts and Turner expound on the slump.

  • Rotation for Giants’ series.

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    Historical — unfortunately: “The Dodgers are the first team in history to win 15 of 16 games and lose 15 of 16 games in the same season, according to Elias.” http://m.dodgers.mlb.com/news/article/253544998/mark-reynolds-grand-slam-give-rockies-a-sweep/?topicId=27118384

    • “Never do anything by halves.”

      • Bob_in_Vegas

        A full WS championship?

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    My Cowboys beat the Giants . . . hopefully my Dodgers can do the same, these next three games!

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    JT agrees that the overall record means nothing: “Just sitting back and saying, ‘We’re still the best team in baseball’ isn’t the answer,” Turner told Andy McCullough of the Los Angeles Times. “Because regardless of what the record says, right now we’re the worst team in baseball.” http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/dodgers-turner-right-now-were-the-worst-team-in-baseball/ar-AArFDUV?li=BBnba9I

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    Tho they did diddly in the runs department, I liked yesterday’s lineup . . . but ya gotta have Puig in there these days, especially when it’s a question of him or Granderson.

    • I would like to see this lineup for a couple of games or until Taylor gets his groove back?

      Barnes
      Puig
      Seager
      Turner
      Bellinger
      Taylor
      Pederson
      Utley/Forsythe

      And I might be happier with switching Pederson and Taylor.

      Or, put Tatlor at second and Ethier in LF.

      • Bob_in_Vegas

        I don’t care so much the order, just the personnel.
        Tho it WAS great having Puig #8 . . . and they WERE winning.
        Right now, high on Barnes and high on Yasiel.

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