Now the offseason has officially begun

And it starts with the announcement that nine Dodgers are officially free agents. Justin Turner and Kenley Jansen top the list, followed by by starting pitchers Rich Hill and Brett Anderson, relievers Joe Blanton, J.P. Howell and Jesse Chavez, outfielder Josh Reddick and second baseman Chase Utley. Scott Kazmir and Carlos Ruiz could join the list depending on their respective opt-outs.

My personal opinion? Keeping Turner and Jansen should be management’s first priority. After that it’s mixed. I doubt they’ll keep Utley. I think I’d keep Blanton and Howell, I’d try to keep Hill, and I’d watch Reddick and Chavez go.

What do you think?

  • HLKLA

    I would try to keep Turner and Jansen, the rest can walk. I believe Hill and Blanton were one hit wonders.

  • WBBsAs
  • WBBsAs

    I hope and expect Jansen and Turner will be back, and would like to see Hill as well. Relievers are often fungible, but Blanton had a really good season but for his post-season blowups. The Dodgers can exercise an option on Ruiz; personally, I think he’d be a solid backup, but they also have the versatile Barnes knocking on the door. Chutley could return, but they need a longer-term solution at 2B.

  • Bumsrap

    Not that I want Dodger ownership to become richer, or that I think I might pay less to subscribe to Extra Innings, or that ticket prices would be less costly, or that a Dodger Dog would cost less, or that parking might be free, I would like for the Dodger payroll to stay below the penalty level which last year was about $189M.

    With that in mind, I don’t want to add the cost of Cespedes or Braun to the Dodger payroll or re-sign Jansen unless other payroll costs are reduced. Where would I be willing to cut payroll? McCarthy, Kazmir, Gonzales, Grandal, Ethier.

    I would sign Turner regardless of other payroll cost preferably to a three year contract.

    I want to see the team get younger and faster and play great defense. That bodes well for Puig, Pederson, Toles, Bellinger, Thompson, Seager, and not so well for Gonzales, Henderson, Grandal, Utley, Kendrick, Ruiz, Sedegen.

    I am ready to watch players begin their long playing stint with the Dodgers and prefer that to watching players with a short playing stint with the Dodgers due to being near the end of their careers.

    I am confident with Stewart, Stripling, Urias, De Leon, De Jong, Buehler, Alveraz, Shefield, Oaks, Wood, Dayton, Garcia, Tolleson (hopefully), and therefore would be willing to trade Kershaw, Maeda, McCarthy, Kazmir.

    I would sign Tolleson as a free agent.

    I would like to see Trea Turner and Trout on the team regardless of how minuscule the chances are for that to happen.

    • Bumsrap

      Kershaw to Mets
      Amed Rosario and Noah Syndergaard to from Mets to Dodgers ( http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2016?list=nym )
      Amed Rosario and Calhoun and Schfield from Dodgers to Nationals
      Synergaard, Puig, Toles, Gonzales, McCarthy, Kazmir, $$, Diaz, Verdugo from Dodgers to Angels.
      Trout from Angels to Dodgers
      Trea Turner from Nationals to Dodgers

      Nationals have a top 10 mlb prospect due up for CF and would have a top 3 prospect ss in Rosario and a Murphy clone in Calhoun at second.

      Angels have the worst minor league system in mlb and needs pitching.

      • HLKLA

        Who will pitch for us?

        • Bumsrap

          Choose from: Stewart, Stripling, Urias, De Leon, De Jong, Buehler, Alveraz, Shefield, Oaks, Wood.

          • HLKLA

            Not exactly a group that would get us to the WS.

          • Bumsrap

            A wise man once said, never say never.

    • WBBsAs

      Every team in baseball would like to have Trout and Trea Turner.

      Henderson? It’s a little late for Rickey to try a comeback.

      • Bumsrap

        In this case Henderson = Hernandez

      • Bob_Hendley

        Never say never!

  • Bumsrap

    Cubs beat the Dodgers this year but it hasn’t always been that way. http://www.dodgersnation.com/dodgers-playoff-moment-james-loneys-grand-slam-in-2008-nlds/2013/10/05/

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    Nice tribute at Cubs rally to old friend — and world champion — David Ross, http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/the-latest-teary-eyed-rizzo-honors-retiring-ross-at-cubs-rally/ar-AAjU6kg?li=BBnba9I

  • WBBsAs

    Today, at the bank, I found myself in line behind an elderly black gentleman wearing a Brooklyn Dodgers cap with the date “1955” at the back. I complemented him on it, and he asked if I knew what it mean – he said some people think it means “Boston.” I told him I knew better, and he said he had grown up in a place where he could walk to Ebbets Field.

  • foul tip

    Really helpful and probably somewhat predictive piece on luxury tax and how it will impact off-season moves:

    http://dodgersdigest.com/2016/11/01/luxury-tax-could-impact-dodgers-offseason-plans-now-and-in-future/

    • Bob_Hendley

      Yeah, always figured that 2018 would be target for dropping below the luxury tax level, otherwise, remaining competitive, the other objective, would be hard to meet.

      • WBBsAs

        Once you’ve dropped below the luxury tax level it resets, and you can splurge again on something special.

  • WBBsAs

    Now watching Arizona fall league ASG, in which Dodgers’ Willie Calhoun is excelling: http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/7617858/v1211128983/live-2016-afl-fall-stars-game

    • WBBsAs

      Prospects Bellinger and Calhoun showing impressive power.

      • Bob_Hendley

        Bellinger leads me recall previous farm 1st basemen: Brock, Karros, Stubbs, Konerko, and Loney, among others. Excited and wonder what we get out of him.

        • Bumsrap

          And Marshal

          • Bob_Hendley

            General Soreness!

          • Bumsrap

            Yes, but part of the 1988 WS chanpionship.

          • WBBsAs

            Marshall never lived up to the hype, but had his moments.

        • WBBsAs

          Konerko was great but, unfortunately, we saw very little of him. Karros was good but not great. Brock, Stubbs and Loney were pretty fungible.

          • HLKLA

            It seems like the Dodgers develop mostly average to just above average first basemen.

          • Konerko was high-quality.

  • WBBsAs

    For sandlot baseball, try the Atacama: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Az-gllHtVPE

    • Bob_Hendley

      Dusty!

      • WBBsAs

        There’s quite a bit of baseball in northernmost Chile, most notably Tocopilla and Iquique. Introduction had to do with the mining industry.

  • HLKLA

    Ruiz to Mariners, Kazmir does not opt out.

    • WBBsAs

      Dodgers to acquire a pitcher off Seattle’s 40-man roster, Barnes seems likely to be Grandal’s backup. Kazmir could be traded, with Dodgers picking up some of his salary.

    • Bob_Hendley

      And so it begins! Looking forward to be confounded again by the FO this off season (as long as they produce another winner).

  • WBBsAs

    And so, this spring, we will get to know Vidal Nuño, who is from Southern California (National City).

  • WBBsAs
  • WinnipegDave

    Well, I’m shocked at this US election. How is everyone doing down there?

    • Bumsrap

      Hoping for the best. Moving on.

    • RBI

      I’m broken-hearted.

    • Bob_in_Vegas

      Stunned.
      Angry at baggage and FBI which allowed this to happen.

    • Appalled, disgusted, ashamed.

      • HLKLA

        Me too!

  • Bumsrap

    We are of like minds.

    • Bob_in_Vegas

      — and sick hearts.

      • Bumsrap

        Protests are in the streets

  • Roger Angell on Game Seven of the World Series. He also wrote about Game Five of this year’s Series in an earlier column.

  • WBBsAs

    Amidst all the misery, there’ll still be baseball (I hope). Brandon McCarthy offers his perspective: https://twitter.com/BMcCarthy32/status/796278973072216064

  • Bob_Hendley

    Time to trade Calhoun?

    • Bumsrap

      Sure. Who do you want for him?

      Would you rather have Verdugo or Puig in RF in 2018?

      • Bob_Hendley

        Suspect it would need to be with an AL team, given that defense seems to be his weakness.

        • Bumsrap

          Might Calhoun’s defense be as good as murphy’s?

          • Bob_Hendley

            Doubt it. Murph is less than average, but is tagged as poor by a few glaring miscues.

          • Bumsrap

            Between Johnson, Calhoun and Hernandez the Dodgers don’t have a second baseman that would be a plus defender or lead off hitter.

          • Bob_Hendley

            Moving Kendrick suggests to me that they are in the market for a 2nd baseman.

  • Bob_Hendley

    Some talk of Cutch being traded, and Dodgers could be candidates moving him to leftfield.

    • Bumsrap

      I would rather trade Gonzales and Bellinger for Goldschmidt to add that righty bat.

      • Bob_Hendley

        So would I, but he is signed for three more years, his prime years, at a very good price, so hard to imagine the Snakes moving him even if they decide to rebuild under their new management.

  • WinnipegDave

    So Kendrick for Ruf and Sweeney. I guess I over value Dodger players. I know Kendrick is not great but I was hoping for him being part of a large package for more exciting players. To be honest, I viewed Kendrick as the poor man’s Zobrist – playing left field and second base – but I guess he was a step or two below that.

    This is clichéd hindsight but I wish the Dodgers had signed the aforementioned Zobrist last off season.

    • Bumsrap

      Did however cut $10,000,000 off the team payroll. That and the $4,500,000 saved from the Ruiz trade and the Dodgers are getting close to one year’s cost for Turner or Jansen.

    • Bob_Hendley

      SVS days numbered I would suppose.

    • Bob_Hendley

      Same here on Zobrist, but Dodgers were not in a financial situation where they could have taken the risk to give a 34 year old player a 4 year contract at around $15 million per, so they decided to go stop-gap. They did manage to get WAR 2.5 out of Chase and Howie, as compared to Ben’s 3.8 in 2016, so not a complete disaster.

    • HLKLA

      Very nice.

    • Bob_Hendley

      Ha! I have one of those.

    • Bob_in_Vegas

      Love it!
      Where can I get one?

  • Seager unanimous winner for Rookie of the Year.

  • HLKLA

    Dave Roberts Manager of the Year!

  • More details about Roberts’ selection as Manager of the Year in the NL.

  • President Obama is going to award Vin The Presidential Medal of Freedom. Here’s video of the phone call from Josh Earnest to Vin.

  • Bob_Hendley

    Getting under the luxury tax by 2018 doesn’t seem possible to me, if the Dodgers want to maintain competitiveness, let alone upgrade. Using Baseball Reference’s judgment on options and arbitration numbers, the team figures to come in at $193 million in 2017 and $185 million in 2018, before dropping to $111 million in 2019.

    Back of the envelope puts the cost of retaining Jansen and Turner at $32 million. If they go for Cutch and Kinsler as possible trade acquisitions that would be an additional $25 million. That would put salaries at $250, $244 and$155 over the next three years. Such an approach would basically preclude major upgrades in starters and relievers. Rotation would be Klayton, Urias, Wood, DeLeon, Stewart and Stripling as well as Kazmir (maybe something from McCarthy, but Ryu doubtful). Maybe worth it to resign Blanton, if the cost is reasonable, and hope that Yimi is back on track, otherwise go with Jansen, Baez, Dayton, Libby, Coleman, Fields, and Avilan, with Ravin and Frias.

    Cutch and Kinsler would cost us the farm, but would try to hold onto Bellinger, Alvarez, Diaz and Buehler.

    • Bumsrap

      Is the 2017 luxury tax threshold available? I assume that number will be going up as Dodger payroll finally comes down.

      I would be happy if $32M annually for both Jansen and Turner gets them back on the team depending on the years involved. I am okay with an outfield of Toles, Pederson, Puig, and Thompson as well as the current pitching available in-house. It would be nice if Verdugo and Calhoun could get a young, fast, plus-defender that hits well from the right side.

      • Bob_Hendley

        That number, the luxury tax, doesn’t seem to move all that much. The upcoming CBA may change that and make other changes, such that GMs have a degree of uncertainty at this point. Cutch is relatively young, though so was Andruw.

  • SI article about younger impact players. Seager is featured.

    Reportedly Reddick is gone to the Astros. I don’t think the Dodgers will miss him much.

  • NPUT

  • Bumsrap

    http://www.espn.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/76381/a-trade-for-every-team

    Sale, closer for Puig, Alvarez, Verdugo, De Leon