Game 141, 2016

Dodgers at Marlins, 4:10PM PT, TV: SPNLA, FS-F

Lefty Rich Hill (11-3, 1.94 ERA) makes his third start for the Dodgers. In his first two he’s thrown 12 scoreless innings. He’ll face RHP Tom Koehler (9-10, 3.87 ERA), who hasn’t won since August 9 but whose last outing was six shutout innings against Cleveland on September 4.

Personnel move:

“Manager Dave Roberts said Ethier will get an occasional start, but with the club’s outfield depth, Ethier will mostly be used coming off the bench as a late-innings pinch-hitter.”

Lineup:

Hmm. Utley gets the day off and Kendrick is back at 2B for the first time in a while. His LF slot will be taken by Puig.

  • WinnipegDave

    Here’s the lineup in fun version (curtesy of DodgerNation’s Twitter feed):

    HowieDoin 2B
    Mr. StealYoGirl SS
    RedDream 3B
    Boom 1B
    Yazmanian C
    WallCrawler RF
    WildHorse LF
    YungJoc CF
    KingOfTheHill P

  • HLKLA

    Sure hope we can keep Fien.

    • WBBsAs

      He’s one of the top gopher ball guys in the majors. One almost every three innings.

      • scooplew

        Speaking of Fine (Fien), one of my all-ime favorite songs:
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rinz9Avvq6A

        • WBBsAs
          • scooplew

            Apples and oranges.

          • scooplew

            Both very good.

          • WBBsAs

            Mangos and papayas.

        • Bob_Hendley

          Speaking of fines, George Harrison had to pay about $600k for that song.

          • WBBsAs

            Plagiarism in action.

          • scooplew

            For “My Sweet Lord”?

          • Bob_Hendley

            Yes, though he claims he was inspired by “Oh Happy Day”, which was no longer under copyright.

  • WBBsAs

    I cringe at the sound of that voice. Come back, Joe Davis!

    • WinnipegDave

      Since I got MLB tv at the beginning of Augusr, I haven’t heard Steiner. I had forgotten what it was like to listen to him.

      • WBBsAs

        I’d like to be able to forget him.

      • Bob_Hendley

        “Like” and “listen” shouldn’t appear in the same sentence when writing about him.

  • WBBsAs

    In the top of the first in Atlanta, the Mets exploded for two runs on no hits.

    • scooplew

      Braves blew back-to-to-back force out attempts, making an error on each play.

  • scooplew

    With two strikes against him this season, Grandal is now 28-for-201 with 101 strikeouts, but also 13 homers.

    • WBBsAs

      All two-strike counts, or 0-and-2?

      • Bob_Hendley

        25 times at 0-2 he has 2 hits both dingers and 14Ks

      • scooplew

        After two strikes. On 0-2 count he is 7-for-57. Anyhow, that’s how I read it on baseball-reference.com. Bob Hendley may be correct.

  • WinnipegDave

    Hill. Man. So smooth.

    • HLKLA

      Like a good scotch.

  • WinnipegDave

    Joc with all the catches.

    • Bob_Hendley

      Reddick with all the pitches.

  • WinnipegDave

    This game is almost too good to enjoy. Almost.

  • RBI

    Joc!!!!

  • WinnipegDave

    The outfielder was looking up for a long time on Joc’s blast!!

  • Bob_Hendley

    Joc with all the runs!

    • Bumsrap

      Did anybody say how far the ball traveled or would have traveled?

      • Bob_Hendley

        They said 418.

        • Bumsrap

          I can only get the Marlins feed on Extra Innings and they didn’t say anything, or I missed it.

  • Bob_Hendley

    For a fly ball pitcher, Hill rarely gives up a dinger.

  • RBI

    Hill is Greg Maddux-like with his control.

  • WinnipegDave

    Rich Hill.
    He interests me, so to speak.

  • RBI

    Corey!!!

    • WinnipegDave

      I like him. Let’s keep him around for a while.

    • Bob_Hendley

      Nice having an SS with 30 dinger power.

  • WinnipegDave

    Seager!!

  • Bumsrap

    Roommates have something to talk about

    • Bob_Hendley

      Now that Joc has his second, Seager unlikely to even broach the subject.

  • Bumsrap

    Glad Fernandez was so yesterday

  • WinnipegDave

    I remember this team. The one that hits the homeruns.

  • Bob_Hendley

    Justin time.

  • WinnipegDave

    Sometimes it feels like rule 8 here and the Dodgers hitting multiple home runs in an inning are in some tension.
    How can we not make the same point over and over again! 🙂

    • Bob_Hendley

      I blame the team.

    • Yes, well, the moderator knows when to make allowances.

      • WinnipegDave

        Thank you sir.

  • Bumsrap

    If friends don’t let friends drive drunk, why do friends let friends have stupid haircuts? Joc, ya got friends?

    • WinnipegDave

      Maybe he was on the bad end of a bet.

      • Bumsrap

        Maybe that cut is bad for hat hair

    • HLKLA

      As a teacher I had several situations where a parent let a child have a wacky hair cut, then tell ME to not let kids tease him about it!

  • John_from_Aus

    I’m pleased an interesting game got more interesting

    • WinnipegDave

      How you liking it now?!

  • 9Ks of 18 hitters. Wowsers.

    • WinnipegDave

      That’s pretty good.

  • WinnipegDave

    Fascinating.

  • Bob_Hendley

    89 is his most pitches as a Dodger, though he regularly went over 100 as an A’s. (then we have the blister issue to consider)

  • HLKLA

    Professor Hill is making a different kind of pitch tonight.

  • WinnipegDave

    Joc might be the player of the game.
    Or he might not be even close to being player of the game.

    • Bumsrap

      He might need 3 more dingers to beat out Hill.

      • WinnipegDave

        Hill: “Never bet against the Number 9 hitter.”

  • RBI

    Grant Dayton warming up. Hmmm.

    • Bumsrap

      Pitch count might be more powerful than Marlins’ Bats

  • RBI

    Puig! What a catch!!!! Who else?

    • Bob_Hendley

      Wow! Wow! Wow!

    • Bumsrap

      Why would Roberts put Puig in left? Answered.

  • Wow, what a catch!

  • WinnipegDave

    Wild Horse can gallop!

  • RBI

    Only Puig’s third time in left field, too.

  • Bumsrap

    Good to be a Dodger fan

    • Bob_Hendley

      Always better, often good.

  • RBI

    I hope Vinny was watching that. He loves Puig’s wheels.

  • RBI

    Seager is so dialed in. (Written before the fly out but after a blistered just foul ball.)

  • RBI

    Will Roberts let Hill go all the way?

    • WinnipegDave

      He will start the 8th anyways.

      • RBI

        Not sure. Hill looked pretty furious just now.

        • WinnipegDave

          You are right.

      • WinnipegDave

        Guessed too soon.
        Disappointing but perhaps not wrong.

    • Bob_Hendley

      Doesn’t look like it.

  • Bob_Hendley

    No Hill.

  • RBI

    How do you guys feel about that? Seems wrong to me.

    • He’s thrown 89 pitches, he’s not gone longer than six innings in over a month, and he’s had blisters badly enough to put him on the DL. Those are all reasonably compelling reasons to take him out, I think.

    • Bob_Hendley

      Right call for me. He would have to take him out at some point due to pitch count. easier to do it now rather than after a perfect 8th.

      • RBI

        Good point.

      • WinnipegDave

        Assuming he had pitched a perfect 8th. And truthfully, I’m guessing Hill would far rather be pulled after giving up a base runner and having the perfect game end, than not being given a chance at all.

        Or perhaps, he gets through the 8th in 9 pitches and the 9th in 8 pitches and pitch count doesn’t really come into play. And he pitches a perfect game.

        • Bob_Hendley

          There are certainly different scenarios about leaving him in but they all mean more pitches, which is what Roberts was trying to avoid. Dave, the guy was out for 5 1/2 weeks with blisters

          • WinnipegDave

            Sigh. You are right. And now, to further back you up, sounds like there was some heat on Hill’s finger.

          • Bob_Hendley

            Stupid Roberts left him in too long!

  • Bumsrap

    From celebration to frustration. No player went near Hill during the debate. Smart.

  • RBI

    Only 89 pitches. Wow.

    • Bob_Hendley

      His high since coming back from DL.

  • HLKLA

    I do not agree with this at all.

  • RBI

    Well, okay. Now that I hear Nomar’s arguments for pulling him, I understand. But how disappointing, after Puig’s catch, etc. We’d better win this game.

    • What did Nomar say?

      • RBI

        He talked about losing Kazmir, looking ahead to needing Hill to be okay and staying blister free and healthy into the post season and onto the World Series, pitch count, etc., etc.

  • Bob_Hendley

    So are their team perfectos?

    • WinnipegDave

      Good question.

  • RBI

    Hill looks crushed.

    • Bumsrap

      For all the reasons for taking him out, those are the same reasons that make Hill want to get the prize. It has been a frustrating season for him.

  • WinnipegDave

    Do they bring in Kenley Jansen for the ninth if it’s still an interesting game?

    • Bumsrap

      Bringing in Blanton to pitch the eighth I think answers that question.

  • WBBsAs

    Many years ago, I saw ex-Gnat Dick Lemay throw a seven-inning perfecto in Tacoma. At that time, the second game of Sunday doubleheaders in the PCL were scheduled for seven only.

    • I remember those at Aloha Stadium when the Hawai’i Islanders played there.

      • WBBsAs

        We used to get studio re-creations of Tacoma games in Hawaii, which started at 11 pm PDT. I recall falling asleep with the Tacoma Giants (gnot Gnats) trailing 8-0 and waking up the next morning to hear they had scored 11 runs in the ninth to win.

  • WinnipegDave

    Seager should have had that.

    • Bob_Hendley

      Bum.

      • WinnipegDave

        Yeah. He won’t be player of the game.

        • Bob_Hendley

          Not even player of his room, now that Joc has two dingers to his one.

  • RBI

    Roberts has guts, I’ll give him that.

    • Bumsrap

      Both his and the ones he tore out of Hill

  • HLKLA

    Does this make it more difficult to sign Hill this off season?

    • RBI

      I don’t think that will be a factor, especially if we get deep into the post season.

    • Bob_Hendley

      They usually go for the highest bidder.

    • WBBsAs

      His overall performance, and the distance the Dodgers go in the post-season, will be more meaningful

    • He’s making less than Puig for this season. $6M.

  • WinnipegDave

    Hot take: If Roberts was around as manager, Koufax wouldn’t have a perfect game either. Too big a risk on straining his arm in the midst of a pennant race.

    • Bob_Hendley

      Nope. One run ball game.

      • WinnipegDave

        So you are saying if the Dodgers were winning 1-0, Hill would have kept pitching?

        • Bob_Hendley

          Yep as Dodgers were tied for NL lead and not up by 4.

    • WBBsAs

      In Koufax’s time, that was not the issue it is today. Sandy threw until his arm fell off.

  • Bob_Hendley

    Joc needs to get on so that Dre can come up.

    • RBI

      Here he is!

    • Bumsrap

      Done

  • WinnipegDave

    Don’t hurt yourself Andre.

    • RBI

      I just said the same thing.

    • WBBsAs

      No, don’t foul a ball off your femur.

  • RBI

    So good to see Ethier back.

  • WinnipegDave

    Maybe Roberts is looking for an edge in a tight Manager of the Year race and thinks this will do it. 😉

    • Bumsrap

      Help or hurt?

      • WinnipegDave

        Ha. Help. Making those tough calls that his pitcher didn’t agree with but was done for the team’s future fortunes.

  • Bumsrap

    Last time a pitcher pulled after 7 perfect innings was 1913

    • WinnipegDave

      Good digging!

      • Bumsrap

        Marlins just said it

        • RBI

          I just heard that dating back to 1913, no pitcher has ever been pulled after 7 perfect innings. As in, Dave Roberts is the first manager to do so.

          • WBBsAs

            Earlier this season, Roberts pulled Stripling from a gno-hitter v. the Gnats. Stripling’s father thanked him.

          • RBI

            In the 7th? Or earlier?

          • WBBsAs

            After seven-plus I think.

          • “100 pitches across 71/3 innings of a no-hit debut” for Stripling. Then Hatcher gave up a 2-run dinger to tie the game.

          • RBI

            Ah! So this is the second time, although that wasn’t a perfect game, just no hits, right? Several walks.

          • Bob_Hendley

            After getting the first out, walked the next guy at 100 pitches.

          • RBI

            Only that walk? I thought he had more.

          • Bob_Hendley

            3 others before that.

          • RBI

            Thanks.

          • WinnipegDave

            Dave Roberts. Crusher of dreams.

            (And just to be clear, I’m not saying this angryly – just kidding around.)

      • Hearing Roberts explain his reasoning after the game will no doubt make Hill and the fans feel much better about it.

        NOT.

  • Bob_Hendley

    Sure to be a bit weird in the clubhouse after the game. Very mixed feelings.

    • John_from_Aus

      Somehow I don’t think Howie makes that if he was out there (does he even make it halfway)

      • WinnipegDave

        It would be funny bizzaro baseball if a manager in Roberts’ position started putting in the defensive B team so that there was a greater chance the perfect game didn’t continue. Like switching Puig for Howie, Hernandez for Joc, etc.

  • HLKLA

    Does he pull Kershaw if the same thing happens?

    • WBBsAs

      Certainly under present circumstances, with Clayton returning from injury.

  • Bob_Hendley

    Out of respect for Hill, players seem very subdued.

    • RBI

      It’s a tough one to swallow, even if the right call.

      • Bob_Hendley

        That’s why it was a tough call.

        • WinnipegDave

          I hate it when the team morale needs to rebound from a 5-0 win.

  • WinnipegDave

    Clearly the big story tonight is beating Mattingly and company for the first time this year.

  • WinnipegDave

    Jansen with the vulture save opportunity.

  • WinnipegDave

    We win! (sorta)

  • Bob_Hendley

    Puig in the doghouse for making Robert’s life difficult.

    • WinnipegDave

      Ha!

    • Bumsrap

      I was thinking along those lines as well. Maybe it would have been better if Puig hadn’t made that catch.

  • RBI

    Woo-hoo.

    • RBI

      No exclamation points tonight.

  • HLKLA

    Well, we win sort of, I guess.

  • WinnipegDave

    Could you imagine if this was the division clinching win?

  • WinnipegDave

    Can’t wait to read what ol’ Mr. Weisman will have to say about all this.

    • HLKLA

      It will need to contain a great deal of salve.

      • WinnipegDave

        It always does.

      • RBI

        Great choice of terms. Given the blister situation.

        • WinnipegDave

          Is salve different than balm?
          “Who told you to put the balm on?”

        • Bob_Hendley

          Recall that he was lost for 2 1/2 weeks to the A’s before the trade and 3 1/2 weeks to us. Not a minor issue.

    • Bumsrap

      He is wondering about that himself

    • HLKLA

      At least Vin was not calling the game. It would be difficult to take away his last chance to call a perfect game.

      • WinnipegDave

        I was thinking that as well. Major silver lining!

  • HLKLA

    This win ranks right up there with th AJ Ellis trade.

    • WinnipegDave

      AJ would have found a way to have Hill at only 69 pitches through 7. jk

  • WinnipegDave

    So what does Roberts say to Hill? Does he tell him next time you have a perfect game going through 7 and you have less than 90 pitches, I’ll let you pitch longer?

    • HLKLA

      I would advise Roberts to not go anywhere near him.

    • Bob_Hendley

      Sure that Roberts would love to be put in that situation.

      • WinnipegDave

        So true.

  • HLKLA

    He probably will not touch this, but it would be interesting to read Grant’s take on this.

  • Kazmir news and it’s not good. Thoracic spine inflammation and no timetable for return.

  • Bob_Hendley

    Everyone focusing on the 89 pitches, but at that rate he would have been at 114 to end the game. He was lost 2 1/2 weeks to the A’s before the trade and 3 1/2 weeks to the Dodgers after the trade. Blisters not a minor issue at all.

  • Brett Anderson tweets about pulling Hill.

  • WinnipegDave

    So if Dodgers make the playoffs, Hill starts Game 1 right?

    • HLKLA

      He may need to start game 2 as well.

  • WBBsAs
  • Bob_Hendley

    True Blue is passing along tweets that indicate Hill was developing a hotspot on his finger (Did Doc leave him in too long?)

  • McCullough’s LA Times game story.

    Roberts conferred with Honeycutt and the training staff. He did the
    math. Hill had not thrown 90 pitches in a game since July 7, the day the
    blister first appeared. He had pitched in two major league games since
    then. He was scratched from an outing on Aug. 31 because of worries
    about his finger. If the blister tore, he might miss a month.

    • Bob_Hendley

      A combined no-brainer and stomach punch.

  • Bob_Hendley

    Zach on the mound for the Snakes today against Matt Moore. A five game lead with 20 left would be awful nice

  • Bob_Hendley

    Those giants are probably looking in the rearview mirror these days. Cards play the Brewers and Mets play the Braves.

  • Bob_Hendley

    Hate to think that anything is in the bag, but a scenario occurred to me where the Dodgers could be in a position of knocking the giants out of the playoffs, perhaps on the last day of the season. How would Roberts play that game? Come to think of it, who among the players would be designated to manage said game? Utley?

    • WBBsAs

      How about Puig?

      • Bob_Hendley

        An inspired choice to be sure.

        • WBBsAs

          It would be loads of fun to see the response of Gnatfans.

  • Bob_Hendley

    199.

  • Bob_Hendley

    Jon, of course, has a well-reasoned take on this. In particular, “Technically, this wasn’t the first time Hill left a start this year without allowing a baserunner. On July 17, he took the mound for Oakland — and then had to leave when his blister problem became untenable during warmups. And it’s that reality that Roberts was dealing with.”

  • WBBsAs

    LInk appears to have overslept. Meanwhile, a voice to cringe at…

    • No, I didn’t oversleep. I did think the game started at 10:10am my time, though. Sorry ’bout that.

  • WBBsAs

    Steiner does not even understand objective case pronouns.

  • Bob_Hendley

    Kenta has a good move, no?

  • Bob_Hendley

    Wow! What a DP.

    • WBBsAs

      DP of the Year!

  • Bob_Hendley

    Four pitch inning.

    • WBBsAs

      Nope, four.

  • Bob_Hendley

    Get-away-day, so everyone swinging early.

  • Bob_Hendley

    Steiner, this won’t be Dre’s first at bat.

    • WBBsAs

      Steiner’s not big on facts.

  • Bob_Hendley

    Orel noting that Urena throws a lot like Martinez (the brother we kept).

  • scooplew

    Pitches through three innings:
    Urena — 26
    Maeda — 30

  • WBBsAs

    The Fish, apparently, do not believe in diacriticals.

    • Bob_Hendley

      Surprising, given where they play.

      • WBBsAs

        We can probably agree with the Wikipedia entry that says Jeffrey Loria has “been called one of the most dishonest owners by numerous publications such as ESPN and named one of the worst owners in sports by Rolling Stone magazine.”

  • WBBsAs

    Steiner also can’t count – after Utley flies out, he says Ureña has retired 11 straight.

  • Belated NPUT

    • WBBsAs

      Good afternoon!