Game 106, 2015

Dodgers at Phillies, 4:10PM PT, TV: SPNLA, CSN

Jimmie Rollins returns to the town where he holds records for most hits, most doubles, and third-most runs in Phillie history. He did that while playing 1,047 games for them.

The Dodgers’ new acquisition Alex Wood makes his first start for the team after going 7-6 with a 3.54 ERA for the Braves. He last pitched on July 27 against the Orioles, giving up no runs, three hits, no walks and seven strikeouts in 7 1/3 innings. His opponent will be Hawai’i-born Jerome Williams, who’s 3-8 with a 6.36 ERA and who had a horrible last outing, giving up ten hits and four runs in only 4 2/3 innings.

Lineup when available.

  • john galt

    LAT’D: I wonder if Hamels or Price would have been possible if Pederson had been available?

    • Different front office team, but I remember how long they hung on to Greg Brock thinking he’d blossom as a hitter. It never quite happened. Brock wasn’t close to Joc’s talent defensively, so I suspect they’ll give him quite a bit of rope. He’s still a kid with only 1,641 minor league plate appearances in all, only 445 of them at the AAA level.

      • Bob_Hendley

        As a first baseman you are supposed to hit a ton. Great fielding CF, like SS, can get away with something less, which is part of the problem. Sending him down as an approach to help him with his hitting would be a blow to our defense. Unless Tony Gwynn Jr is available so would trading him.

        • package206

          Could you please provide which center fielders suffer no hitting but are great. In thinking of great centerfielders, I can only think on Mays, Mantle, DiMaggio, Snider, among others and now guys like Trout and McCutchen among others who I would consider great. If he can’t hit, might as well kept Kemp in right and played Dre.

          • Well, no. Joc is twice the fielder Ethier is.

          • package206

            Twice the fielder? I don’t think so.

          • Bob_Hendley

            Not sure what you are trying to get at, but CF is a critical defensive position. The fellows you mention were great hitters as well.

          • package206

            You inferred that the Center Field position could be done by a player with less hitting than others in the lineup. Maybe I didn’t understand? My point was that I did not know that and which players with less than stellar hitting but great played center field?

          • Bob_Hendley

            A well played CF provides for run prevention that can compensate for run production. Names of CF who played great defense and who were not among, say, the best 6 hiitters on a team would include guys like Garry Maddax and Paul Blair.

          • package206

            So are you saying that Joc can survive by hitting poorly and defensively play good?

          • Bob_Hendley

            Well, I would be happy if he could put up a 120 OPS+ and I certainly think he has the potential to do that if not more. I suppose he might “survive” with less than that, but depends on what options the Dodgers might have to upgrade and what sort of production they are getting from other slots.

          • package206

            All I know is hitting .223 is not getting it done, potential or not. If not for the 21 dingers of which most were hit in the 1st month or so he is not getting it nearly done with the bat.

          • Bob_Hendley

            Joc hit .222 in June and had an OPS+ 145. I would gladly take that.

          • package206

            What about July?

          • Bob_Hendley

            The point is that one can hit .223 and still contribute. Let’s hope he gets back to helping out with his bat.

          • package206

            This team does not need anyone who can only hit .223. This team is run by a multi billion dollar company that can can afford any player it wants. The only reason they would is lack of leadership by the FO. They must win this year to have any credibility.

          • Bob_Hendley

            All this to just so you can end up ranting about the FO again (and again and again)? BTW, you might better understand baseball if you got away from evaluating players based upon BA alone.

          • package206

            I don’t evaluate players on BA alone. I just don’t use a bunch of sabermetrics. No matter what either of us use. The bottom line is winning. If this team does not do better than last year, then all the moves made so far mean nothing because anyone can say they have players in the minors that will make them better. What happens years down the road does not count in this exercise. This exercise is about this year.

          • Bob_Hendley

            Well, you are not going to be happy with this FO, because they define the exercise beyond one year results.

          • package206

            I don’t know what you heard but all I heard was breaking up the team would result in the Dodgers winning the WS next year because it was more flexible and nimble and the chemistry was better. They have gutted much of the team and that is what they think will get it done. Yes they do define this exercise beyond one year results but this year is job one.

          • Bob_Hendley

            Well, there were a lot of sportswriters fawning over them and their moves. But that is what they do.

          • package206

            Sportswriters didn’t say that, Freidman did.

          • Bob_Hendley

            He said they would win the WS?

          • package206

            That’s what I heard.

    • package206

      That trade would be something to think about but I don’t think the Phils or Tigers would have done that trade.

  • john galt

    Next topic: Is (has) Alex Guerrero shown enough with his hitting to justify keeping him in LA in spite of his fielding? (To be honest, his defense hasn’t looked that bad to me, but what do I know???) Should we send him down to learn to field and get regular at bats, risking him demanding his release? Suggestions?

    • WBBsAs

      Can’t send him down without his permission. His contract makes him virtually untradeable. His offense has some value, I think, but Ned put handcuffs on his successors in this case.

      • john galt

        No. We are responsible for his contract but we can release him if we choose. I was speaking of giving him that choice, release or go to OKC. I think he, like most of us, would take the release, with the money, and take his chances on finding happiness with another club which would only have to pay the legal minimum of his salary. Not good for us but the alternative is having a player of limited usage on the 25 man roster for several more years. If he hits, we can stand it; If he doesn’t, they will have to consider eating the money. Best thing is to trade him for whatever they can get, maybe just some salary relief… After all, we just dumped $28 MM with Olivera…

        • WBBsAs

          He’s had some value, so I wouldn’t cut him loose. Olivera had more value, partly because of his contract flexibility, and brought back a great deal more in trade, so they didn’t “dump” any money for him.

    • Bob_Hendley

      Certainly not something to do in the short term, with Justin out, Let’s see how he does over the next week or so. After that we start getting close to roster expansion in any event, so maybe we wait to off season?

  • scooplew

    Joc could well have a big game against right-hander Jerome Williams and his high ERA. By the time Pederson comes to bat for the first time, we could well have put three or four runs on the board. Here’s hoping.

  • foul tip

    Via Jon W., a good look at tonight’s new Dodger starter:

    http://www.ocregister.com/articles/wood-675716-dodgers-one.html

    Over the weekend, Dodgers pitching coach Rick Honeycutt watched Wood’s first bullpen session in awe.

    “Some of his changeups were almost like splits that went almost straight down,” Honeycutt said. “I said to him, ‘Geez, that’s filthy.’”

    “He goes, ‘Yeah.’”

    • Stats aren’t everything, but this sentence from that article is eye-opening:

      he has produced more big-league value, by Wins Above Replacement, than
      any of the other 1,237 players selected in the 2012 draft.

      • Bob_Hendley

        Well, we have sen him twice ourselves this year, both QS that he won.

  • foul tip

    A couple additional folk at TBLA. Here one examines mechanical issues for Kenley of late:

    http://www.truebluela.com/2015/8/4/9094909/kenley-jansen-mechanics-slump-dodgers

  • A reminder that players are people too; they have families: it wasn’t just Mets shortstop Flores who was stunned by a trade.

  • Nuts. 2nd and 3rd with no one out followed by two ground balls and a strikeout.

  • Bob_Hendley

    How was Joc’s BB. Good eye or pitcher far off the plate?

    • I missed it. Maybe somebody else was watching.

      • WBBsAs

        He laid off a couple low pitches.

  • Bob_Hendley

    Let’s go Joc!

  • Bob_Hendley

    Joc laid off all but one of the pitches off the plate in that PA.

  • WinnipegDave

    Phew. He just stopped short of swinging through on that last pitch. Bases loaded – no one out. Time to score some runs.

    • WinnipegDave

      Gaaah. So inept at scoring tonight. Strike out. Then first pitch 5-3 double play.

  • Bob_Hendley

    Three guys in the fillies booth, who have nothing better to do than talk to each other. I guess when your team is in last place they are trying to provide entertainment.

    • Surprisingly, the Phillies are 12-3 since the All Star break. How’d that happen?

    • WBBsAs

      They have some young players with potential now, could talk about them.

  • WinnipegDave

    Ruff looks like Chris Pratt.

  • 59 pitches in four innings. 41 strikes, 18 balls. His control’s pretty good.

    • WinnipegDave

      Yah, but he got his base hit at the wrong time tonight. Otherwise he would be winning.

  • WinnipegDave

    Williams up to 90 pitches and Dodgers still haven’t scored.

    • Bob_Hendley

      Have to score against this guy before they pull him!

      • WinnipegDave

        There’s one.

  • WinnipegDave

    Dodgers playing constipated baseball tonight. Bases jammed but having a hard time getting runners home.

  • WinnipegDave

    Not good defence this inning. Bobbles by both Rollins and Guerrero.

    • WBBsAs

      You misspelled “defense.”

      • WinnipegDave

        You slighted Canada.
        I’ll leave it to others to decide who committed the greater error.

  • Joc seemingly has decided if he can’t hit he’ll just walk every time up.

  • How many leadoff guys have been left on base in this game? Sheesh!

    • WinnipegDave

      2. As in 2 many.

  • WinnipegDave

    Wow. I thought that shot was gone of the bat of Franco.

  • WBBsAs

    Mechanically, Wood looks awkward, but he’s been effective.

    • There’s a discussion of those mechanics in the article foul tip linked to here.

      • WBBsAs

        I saw that.

  • WinnipegDave

    I think Uribe would have had that grounder.

    • Bob_Hendley

      Alberto as well.

      • WinnipegDave

        That’s right. I forgot about him for a second and was just thinking Turner might not have gotten it either.

  • WinnipegDave

    San Fran currently losing.

    • WBBsAs

      You misspelled “Gnats” (don’t give me that Canada excuse).

      • WinnipegDave

        Ha! I changed it to San Fran just to mess with you.

        • WinnipegDave

          And in Canada gnats are sometimes called midges.

          • WBBsAs

            That works too.

  • WinnipegDave

    What the heck was that?!

    • WBBsAs

      Ugly, but it should be a balk.

      • WinnipegDave

        I hope so, but it seemed just like a wild pitch.

        • WBBsAs

          Ball fell out of his hand, that’s a balk.

      • Bob_Hendley

        Ruiz to his credit never stopped running.

    • foul tip

      I dunno. I’ve been to 6 county fairs and 3 goat ropings, but I’ve never seen anything like that.

  • Bob_Hendley

    Well, that didn’t work out.

    • WinnipegDave

      And to make matters worse, the midges are leading in their game now too.

  • WinnipegDave

    Feels like a game that the Dodgers are not going to win.

    • Bob_Hendley

      Seeing as we are four runs behind, that feeling would seem to have some basis in fact. 😉

      • WinnipegDave

        Yah. I try not to let facts prevent me from stating obvious interpretations of the story line.

  • WinnipegDave

    The 2015 Dodger bullpen speciality: Giving up home runs.
    So many home runs.

  • WinnipegDave

    Bringing Callaspo to pinch hit/defensive purposes for Guerrero when trailing by 4 – and batting – speaks to how off Guerrero has been at bat recently.

  • Bob_Hendley

    CC rides one!

  • WinnipegDave

    Need one more hit here – by Rollins!

    • Bob_Hendley

      How are you “feeling”? 😉

      • WinnipegDave

        Feeling like the ump is called some tough strikes against the Dodgers.

  • Bob_Hendley

    Dang!

    • WBBsAs

      ¡Mier…coles¡

  • WinnipegDave

    If the Dodgers lose, I’m blaming this one on Turner. I think his bat would have made the difference (sorry perhaps I should type differense for WBB) to some of those Dodger rallies.

    • I blame Peralta, thanks. A hanging curve ball down the middle with the bases loaded? Poor Wood, he deserved better.

      • Bob_Hendley

        Peralta has not been effective since he came back. I can see DFA in his near future.

  • It seems to me the bullpen this year has been less than scintillating.

  • Here’s something: it’s good to be a middle reliever. Peralta has never thrown more than 87 innings in a single season and has averaged 72. A million or two bucks a year for that amount of work seems like a good deal.

    • Bob_Hendley

      Would think that closer provides more buck per inning.

      • Senor Rivera would know.

      • WinnipegDave

        DH’ing could be fairly lucrative as well for minimal effort I suppose.

  • WinnipegDave

    I guess not as embarrassing losing to the Phillies these days. Still highly frustrating though.

    • WBBsAs

      The Fillies have won something like 12 of their last 15.

    • At least Matt Stairs hasn’t hit a home run in this game.

    • Bob_Hendley

      The fillies have the luxury of knowing that when they win it is always against a better team. And when they lose, well, they lost to a better team than they are.

      • WinnipegDave

        Talk about a loser’s dividend scenario.

  • Oh good. The offense inches closer and then you give up yet another run, bullpen.

  • WinnipegDave

    Need 2 more walks and then a home run to tie this game up.

  • Bob_Hendley

    Well, even if it got out, would have still been down by a run.

    • WinnipegDave

      Down by 1 is still better odds with one out left than down by 4.

  • WinnipegDave

    2 out of 3 is still very possible for the Dodgers. (Trying to stay positive.)

    • As long as Matt Stairs doesn’t come out of retirement. 😉

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