Game 68, 2015

Giants at Dodgers, 7:10PM PT, TV: SPNLA

The Giants send out Chris Heston, one start removed from a no-hitter on July 9 against the Mets. He’s 6-5 with a 3.76 ERA on the season. He’ll face Mike Bolsinger of the Dodgers, who’s 4-1 with a 2.25 ERA (4-0, 1.01 ERA at home).

Lineup when available.

Joc and Yasiel flipped. Here’s why.

  • john galt

    To WBBsAs: You’re right of course. Callaspo has a certain amount of competency or he wouldn’t have lasted around major league ball clubs this long. But he’s certainly no better than Uribe and not a lot cheaper. It is probably safe to eat Alpo for dinner, I’ve heard some poor people do, but I never have, simply because I can afford better. So too can the Dodgers. With the tons of money Ned AND the new FO have wasted, saving a few dollars by foisting has-beens and never-will-bes like Callaspo and Heisey on the fans is unforgivable, We have better players…use them. Hernandez is a perfectly adequate replacement in centerfield and shortstop, and third base, too, I’d wager; Guerrero plays good enough for me in left field or at third base and God knows he hits better than Callaspo and Heisey. When your club payroll is well over $200 million, saving half a million here or there is without meaning.

    • package206

      Especially when much of the 200 mil doesn’t play with the Dodgers anymore. Well said John.

      • scooplew

        It’s a bit like spending a fortune on a fancy new sports car and then buying cheap and flimsy seat covers. Makes no sense.

        • Bob_Hendley

          This is a lot of bones about nothing. Callapso is occupying a slot to be filled shortly by a fellow they spent $62 million on. Heisey is a 6th outfielder whose contact allows the Dodgers to bounce him up and down to the minors depending upon their specific needs at the moment to let Joc take a day off or fill in for a injured outfielder or bring up a pitcher.

          • john galt

            Since the nasty old Democrats and Republicans won’t take my advice on how to save the world, I have lowered my sights and concentrate on saving the Dodgers from themselves… Sic semper…

    • Part of the Uribe trade was to get him some playing time elsewhere.

  • RBI

    Off to the movies with my husband for his birthday. I’m counting on you guys to make sure we win this game. No pressure, but…

    • What movie?

    • foul tip

      Maybe this bunch can handle it better than Dodger hitters with RISP.

  • WBBsAs

    Surprised to see tonight’s game is not a blackout. Tomorrow and Sunday are, though.

    • john galt

      Tonight is blacked out for me but Sat and Sun are broadcast. Go figure…

      • WBBsAs

        This is one reason I particularly dislike Gnatgames. When they’re not playing the Dodgers, the blackouts don’t bother me in the least.

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    Sure like those DPs when the Dodgers are in the field!

  • Bob_Hendley

    Ron (hit me) Hunt was HBP 50 times in 1971.

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    Yahoo — a run-scoring hit!
    Perhaps that balk IS the spark?

  • WBBsAs

    Grandal delivers…

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    C’mon, Mike — can’t let ’em score . . . runs are too hard to come by.

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    Can’t allow Posey a position to hurt.
    That hurts!

  • package206

    Hey WBB, you ever heard of Buster Posey?

    • WBBsAs

      You misspelled “Busted Poseur.”

      • Bob_in_Vegas

        He sure busted the Dodgers!

        • package206

          Man, that hurts!!

          • Bob_in_Vegas

            Busted my hopes this could turn things around. Still, it ain’t over . . .

          • package206

            These guys ain’t got nothing. Why do they keep gettin it right?

          • Bob_in_Vegas

            First, they have Bochy.
            2nd, they obviously have “more” than the Dodgers if you’re talking results.
            (Since I’ve learned to acknowledge accomplishments without liking those who make them, it’s made handling it all a lot easier.)

  • package206

    Hey Winnipeg Dave, where are you? I get it, you check in late or not?

  • package206

    Buster Posey, the man who changed the way the catching position is played. Mr. Baby!!

    • WBBsAs

      The guy who never learned how to block the plate changed the game.

      • package206

        He cried enough to change the game WBB.

        • WBBsAs

          The Gnats’ front office cried enough. Scioscia knew how to play the position, though.

          • package206

            You have really got that right.

          • WinnipegDave

            Absolutely, He held his ground against runners much bigger than he was – and even if he got his bell rung, got the out more often than not.

  • package206

    My man Justin!!!

  • WinnipegDave

    Nice to see the Dodgers get off the mat and cut the lead to one!

    • package206

      Where have you Been??

      • WinnipegDave

        I was around last night, but had training meetings out of town that took me away for most of this week.

        • package206

          For a minute, I thought you were snowed in!!

          • WinnipegDave

            Lol, Hopefully not again for a while.

          • package206

            Hey Dave, we are going to win this game because I said so.

          • WinnipegDave

            Sounds good to me!

  • WinnipegDave

    Talk about lows and highs: from giving up the grand slam home run one inning to striking out the side the next.

    • package206

      Hey, I got this!!

  • package206

    This is my boy Ethier.

  • package206

    Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • package206

    C’mon man. See what I mean WBB??

    • WBBsAs

      About what?

      • package206

        We need Grandal to deliver when necessary, not some lazy fly ball.

        • WBBsAs

          Unlike A.J., who’s batting 1.000.

          • package206

            I’m sorry, who mentioned Ellis??

          • WBBsAs

            A.J.’s .175 is clearly misleading.

        • You do remember that a 30% success rate for a hitter is considered good.

          • package206

            You are correct, Toche.

  • WinnipegDave

    Pretty sad that once Grandal flied out, it feels like the inning is done.

  • package206

    I told you we needed to bring up Seager.

    • WinnipegDave

      I wish they wouldn’t have to bring him up quite yet. There must be another way to get one more strong bat into the lineup that didn’t bring the infield defense – specifically at shortstop – down completely

      • WBBsAs

        Quique should get more playing time at SS.

        • WinnipegDave

          That might to it. Clearly the Dodgers don’t want Guerrero playing much out on the field.

          • package206

            We need his bat in the lineup!!

      • package206

        Have you looked at Rollin’s numbers lately??

        • WinnipegDave

          He is batting .198.

          • package206

            Yea, all the more reason to play Seager. Rollins is washed up.

          • WinnipegDave

            Oh, I’m not disagreeing that Rollins is not getting it done. I just would love to see Seager get some more time at Triple A before being called up. We need a different stop gap between Rollins now and Seager in September.

          • package206

            27 years is long time to wait . Bring Seager up now!!

          • WinnipegDave

            Or – we waited 27 years – what’s three more months?

          • package206

            OK, you win.

          • WinnipegDave

            Lol. If only either of us could actually see into the future and know what the best move to make would be!

          • He has only had 164 AAA at bats.

          • package206

            Link, you got to admit that Rollins isn;t getting it done.

          • Agreed but I think Seager needs more reps in AAA.

          • package206

            I know but times a wasting and Seager could be learning his craft.

          • WBBsAs

            He is learning.

  • WinnipegDave

    Looks like Bolsinger goes only one more inning tonight. Hope it is a full inning at least.

  • WinnipegDave

    Nice to get Posey out. But, ugh, then Belt hits a double.

  • package206

    C’mon Bollinsinger, low and away to Belt. OK?

  • package206

    Time for Belsinger to go.

  • package206

    That’s my boy!! Justin!

  • WinnipegDave

    Need to get Turner home, even with two outs here.

  • package206

    Need some runs boys!!

  • WinnipegDave

    I don’t know if I have ever seen a pitching change and a pinch hitter come up – after an at bat has already started.

    • package206

      Many times.

      • WinnipegDave

        Really – in the middle of an at bat, pulling the pitcher and then changing the batter as well?

        • WinnipegDave

          Maybe if there has been a injury, but far less often with out one, I’m guessing.

        • package206

          Back in the day it happened a lot.

          • WinnipegDave

            Guess I wasn’t old enough, or paying close enough attention.

          • package206

            They used to change pitchers and batters just to get the right matchup.

          • WinnipegDave

            Of course, but wouldn’t they do that before an new at bat started – and not after they had committed by starting it? Seems strange to me.

          • package206

            Not always. I have seen it change after just one pitch.

    • WBBsAs

      Actually, seeing the pitching after a single pitch to the hitter is more unusual.

  • package206

    WBB, the’s guys for the Gnats act like they know what’s happening and they are wet behind the ears.

  • package206

    Send Pagan home. He is making the game last too long.

  • package206

    Baby Posey up next.

  • WinnipegDave

    Wonder if Uribe would have made that play?

    • WBBsAs

      Quite possibly.

  • WinnipegDave

    Striking out Belt helps. Still need to be careful to get out of this mess without any runs being scored.

  • WinnipegDave

    It might not happen for the boys in blue tonight.

  • WinnipegDave

    And with that I will say goodnight. After a long week, sleep is calling.

  • WinnipegDave

    Oh wow – now 9-3. RBI will be glad she missed this one…

    • RBI

      Just logged on. Glad I was watching dinosaurs destroy things, instead of Gnats.

      • WinnipegDave

        Ha ha. Yes, that would be easier to swallow than this.

      • WBBsAs

        If I’m watching dinosaurs, I would prefer they destroy Gnats.

  • JonnyTAFKAJ

    Hi Guys@ … been a while. Busy, but always thinking of my Elysian Fields siblings….
    ….
    I’ll refrain from any negative commentary about this game, but, wanted to offer a hello.
    🙂

    • scooplew

      Nice to hear from you.

  • RBI

    At least we went down fighting.

    • Howard Fox

      But once again, against a team with a winning record, we went down.

      • Bob_Hendley

        Perhaps not much of a consolation, but they are only a winning team because they beat us. 🙁

  • scooplew

    Not enough clutch hitting, not enough clutch pitching. It’s been that way too often since we started 22-10.

    • Bob_in_Vegas

      By my count, this next week will mark the same amount of time since May 13th as from the beginning of the season until then, when things went . . . bad.
      We still don’t know which is the true team: the one where there was a different hero in every game or the current one, where there’s a different goat.

      • Howard Fox

        This is the true team, sorry to say. Unless someone can light a fire, this is it.

        • foul tip

          With this front office, this is never “it.” Olivera and Seager wait in the wings, some bullpen help is rehabbing and almost ready, injured starter Beachy shows promise, and the team is likely to use some of its resources at or before the trade deadline to land one or more quality starting pitchers.

          Also, last time I looked the Dodgers were still in first. SF hasn’t played well in June either. And they certainly aren’t some kind of super team, even if they have been very fortunate the last few years.

          • Howard Fox

            The proverbial light at the end of the tunnel. Unfortunately, Donnie is playing the role of the conductor who is texting.

          • Bob_Hendley

            Weak.

          • Howard Fox

            What can I say, it’s early and I have not yet finished my cup of coffee.

          • Bob_Hendley

            Don’t go that way! I woke up pissed off from the loss and the coffee is just fueling that.

          • Howard Fox

            I hear ya.
            I am and always have been the eternal optimist when it comes to the Dodgers. Always have been. I always believe. I drink the Kool-Aid.
            Since Donnie took over, I am not so sure any more. Sure, the FO are a bunch of geniuses. Just ask them, they will tell you. Sure, we have the farm system to end all farm systems. Sure, now we are happy as clams now that the poisons that were Kemp and Uribe are gone.
            Like I say, I just don’t buy in to where we are and where we seem to be heading. No amount of coffee will help with this.

          • package206

            I hope you are right. So far the FO has not acquired any really notable top tier pitchers. I do not have my hopes up.

          • WinnipegDave

            I completely agree foul tip. The personnel and financial resources are already present throughout the whole organization to inject a lot of life into this team.

    • Bob_Hendley

      Figuring that this team is somewhere between that earlier 111 game winning season and the current 90 game pace. To reach 95 wins we would need to play at a .600 pace in the remaining games. Could win the Division with much less. The giants are on an 86 wins pace. We have more issues than the pen, but its glaring when we have to throw two relievers like that at the giants and getting Baez and Peralta back should help.

      • Howard Fox

        Having Turner as a go to guy, the clutch guy, reminds me of the Grabarkewitz team years ago.

      • foul tip

        When your team gives up 4 in two different innings, you should lose.

        Fortunately the pitching has been much better than that, for the most part.

        • Howard Fox

          Except for the 4 in two innings…..

    • foul tip

      Streaks like the 22-10 start and the 42-8 run should be enjoyed but really can’t be expected.

    • Bob_Hendley

      Heck, who needs clutch hitting. Just normal hitting would do. Jon looked at the previous 7 games when we had 53 PAs in RISP situations. There were 8 Ks, but as many BBs as well, but what is extreme is the BABIP of .056 (2 for 36)! Given that these were mostly well pitched games from our side, if it wasn’t for bad luck we wouldn’t have no luck at all.

  • WinnipegDave

    So, in the “These Types of Stats Don’t Matter or Make Any Difference to How the Dodgers are Actually Doing” category, last nights loss lowered the Dodgers winning percentage in two stats. They have a very good won-loss record when they score first and when they score more than 4 runs. Obviously, both of these took a hit last night.

    • Bob_Hendley

      Ha! So either an anomaly or we are starting to get more creative in how we lose.

  • WBBsAs

    For me, last night was the season’s low point – the only game I’ve turned off early.

  • john galt

    With the exception of Buster Posey, our players are better, more talented. Their Manager and GM make them better, they get more from each player, and I don’t think I recall any dissonance from their clubhouse.

    • WBBsAs

      In your first sentence, you’ve told us why the Dodgers are in first place.

      As for clubhouse dissonance, the early ’70s A’s were constantly punching each other out, but still managed to win three straight Series. And the Gnats somehow managed to stagger through last year despite the problem of Phlablo (whom they cut loose after the season, however).

    • Bob_Hendley

      Bochy is gold, but not sold on the supposed value of team harmony. After all, our apparently dysfunctional clubhouse (Molly Knight will soon give us all the dirt in her book) beat them by six games last year.

      • Bob_in_Vegas

        Yes, but they won it all — 3rd time in 5 years.
        There’s is no doubt they have been the better team, as far as their results.

        • Bob_Hendley

          Yes, I think we all know the results : (, but the question at hand is as regards whether team harmony plays a decisive role. Doubt that the giants were so much more harmonious than the Nats, Cards or Royals in any event.

          • Bob_in_Vegas

            “Harmony” or not, they are the “better” team. John’s original post said Dodger players are better than Giant players. That may be the case, but the team stats (i.e. WS wins) clearly favor the Giants. Whatever it is — laundry, manager, front office, clubhouse music — they’ve got that winning feeling.

          • Bob_Hendley

            Yes, of course. John was trying to identify what that element might be. He threw out team harmony as a possibility, but WBBs and I had our doubts as that role. I think in a short series a fellow like Bochy can be pretty important.

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