Game 46, 2015

Braves at Dodgers, 7:10PM PT, TV: SPNLA, SPSO

Zack Greinke (5-1, 1.48 ERA) goes out after a Dodger win for a change. He’s not asked to stop a losing streak of even a single game tonight. His mound opponent will be lefty Alex Wood (2-2, 3.83), a three-year veteran. The only Dodger who’s had more than ten at-bats against Wood is Jimmie Rollins, and he’s 0-for-14.

Jay Jaffe of SI tries to make sense of the Uribe trade and can’t: “For the Dodgers, they’ve traded away their best infield defender and a possible second-half bullpen arm in a deal that just doesn’t make sense.”

Here are the trade details: Uribe and Withrow to the Braves for Alberto Callaspo, Ian Thomas, Juan Jaime and Eric Stults. The Dodgers then followed up: “Callaspo on active roster, Thomas optioned to @okc_dodgers, Jaime goes to extended Spring Training, Stults designated for assignment.”

The best way I can make sense of it is that the Dodgers realized they weren’t doing Uribe any good playing him in a three-way platoon at third base and looked for a way to get him to a team which would use him more often. He’s a free agent at the end of this season and he wants to impress potential new employers. That may not be the real reason for this deal, but I can’t figure out any other sensible ones.

Lineup when available.


The Braves’ lefty is the reason André sits, I’m sure.

  • WBBsAs

    Uribe isn’t much of a bat off the bench, but he’s more than a late-inning defensive replacement to the right team. With Turner, Guerrero and Olivera, he wasn’t going to play much, and he didn’t have much value as an aging starter with just a few months left on his contract. I hated his signing originally, but then grew to respect him, though I won’t miss him much. Callaspo and Stults will not be around long, but the minor leaguers might have some reclamation upside.

  • WBBsAs

    Santos has been DFA’d, Heisey recalled from OKC.

    • package206

      Even this FO recognizes that Santos is not a good pitcher. How about you??

      • WBBsAs

        They’ve DFA’s quite a few people they’ve kept, and I expect they’ll keep him at OKC if he makes it through waivers. He’s had some major league success.

  • package206

    Link, I know you have a good heart but the FO giving Uribe a break is just not believeable. They only care about themselves. Maybe they wanted to just free up a roster spot or obtain another minor leaguer or something to do with money but not help Uribe. I will miss Juan.

  • package206

    Time to let Heisey go.

    • Why?

      • package206

        He has 1 hit in 5abs. Clearly not playing shows he is not needed. Don’t know why he was ever obtained.

        • Bob_Hendley

          An additional 5 PAs resulted in walks. I imagine he was obtained as a fallback for Joc, if only to plug in short term.

          • John_from_Aus

            maybe Heisey and Rollins can have a Mendoza line competition for the rest of the season (Ellis can only dream about reaching that lofty level)

          • WBBsAs

            A righty bat in SVS’s absence, given Dre’s helplessness v. lefties.

          • package206

            Do you ever look at the stats? Dre is hitting .316 against leftys and .310 against rightys. Doesn’t look like helplessness to me.

          • WBBsAs

            In his career, he is hitting .236 v. lefties v. 304 v. righties. His very small sample size this season means, well, very little.

    • package206

      He is not needed and he really is not that good.

  • package206

    Stults just designated for assignment per Ken Rosanthal

  • scooplew

    Uribe is apparently the consummate personality in the clubhouse — liked, respected and admired. But his value at bat had diminished — I know he didn’t get that many chances — and Guerrero and Turner are now better hitters. Uribe, however, is a remarkable defensive presence. Perhaps it was hard for Mattingly to continue to keep him on the bench because of how highly Juan is regarded. That won’t be hard with the newcomer Callaspo, who won’t be on this roster long. He will depart when Olivera arrives, or sooner. I hope Uribe does well with the Braves, starting with the four-game series in San Francisco beginning tomorrow.

  • scooplew

    Is “Designated for Assignment” something like being halfway fired?

    • john galt

      It is your owner putting a “For Sale” sign on you…

      • scooplew

        I see.

  • john galt

    The jerks in the FO may be having fun but their antics are not pleasing to at least some Dodger fans, including me. A roster which changes daily, so many players going through that we’ll soon have to use triple digit uniform numbers (or maybe maybe letter suffixes) really doesn’t give a fan a chance to bond with the players. No, I don’t want Ned back but stability please.

    • Bob_Hendley

      You really care about this juggling of players at the back end of the roster?

      • john galt

        Yes. And I think the players care also.

        • Bob_Hendley

          Other than the players involved, I doubt that the other roster 23 players not in the revolving door give it much thought. We are basically talking about Heisey, Barney, and a couple of pitchers trading places.

          • John_from_Aus

            who’s Barney in for, I missed that?

          • Bob_Hendley

            As part of the revolving door. Not up now.

  • John_from_Aus

    It really weird seeing Uribe in the other teams lineup list

  • john galt

    Read some of the money explanations today and I’m doing this from memory. You want to look it up and call me a liar, feel free… Dodgers saved a little over $4 MM on Uribe’s salary, but are paying $1 MM for Stults and $2.5 MM for Callaspo, so they’ve saved a little over half a million but no new USEFUL players. Atlanta saves about $3.5 MM in salaries of players leaving but is now paying $4 MM plus for Uribe, plus the $100 K they bribed Callaspo with. So for considerably less than $1 MM net they get the services of Uribe for the rest of the season. I’d say they came out ahead…

    • package206

      I am still waiting for this FO to bring in a top tier player. Don’t think it will ever happen.

  • scooplew

    Ethier is batting .310 vs. righties (31-for-100) and .316 vs. lefties (6-for-19) this season. With the season between one-fourth and one-third complete, Ethier is on a pace to set career highs in batting average, OBP, slugging and OPS. He has grounded into only one DP. Ethier also has his best walk to strikeout ratio, 17 to 21. This is his 10th year with the Dodgers.

    • WBBsAs

      SSS. Historically, Ethier is very poor v. lefties.

      • package206

        Joc is hitting 231 against leftys. He has 11Ks in 31 PAs. Maybe 34%

        • WBBsAs

          Joc has a .355 OBP v. lefties. He’s hardly embarrassing himself.

          In any event, you’re changing the subject again.

          • package206

            Ethier has struck out 21 times and Joc 54

          • WBBsAs

            As a platoon player, Ethier’s been a pleasant surprise, but Joc’s much more valuable on an everyday basis. You should be harvesting cherries.

  • scooplew

    Apropos of the Uribe trade, this is from a 2013 MLB.COM story:

    May 30, 1922: The Cubs and Cardinals were in the middle of a morning-day doubleheader (back then, the first games of a double dip started before noon) at Cubs Park. Max Flack, who lived three blocks from the ballpark, went home for lunch between games and arrived back to
    the Cubs clubhouse to find out he’d been traded.

    Flack was now a Cardinal, swapped for outfielder Cliff Heathcote. The two did what any similarly-built men would do (Flack was 5-foot-7, 150 pounds; Heathcote, 5-10, 160): they traded uniforms and hit the field with their new teams.

    • Willie Mays was traded from the Giants to the Mets in mid-series in May of 1972.

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    Vin recounted class act by fans and Dodger players alike, giving Uribear a standing O.

  • foul tip

    Have read that Uribe’s agent may have asked for a trade.

    Meanwhile, dude can’t “get no respect.” His first Braves BP jersey read UR BE. Explanation: adhesive on the “I” failed, later fixed with adhesive tape.

    First the Dodgers reassign his uniform number the very next day after he’s traded. Now this additional indignity. Seems fitting to happen to Uribe, somehow.

    http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2015/5/27/8675235/juan-uribe-braves-jersey-is-missing-a-letter-no-i-in-team?_ga=1.40852769.2014194878.1389713399

    • foul tip

      No way the jersey had room for the “AR” after the “E,” either. ;-])

      • scooplew

        But we would have found a way.

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    DP — don’t want Uribear to have a chance to really hurt.

  • WBBsAs

    A.J.’s framing shortcomings are costing Greinke.

    • package206

      You mean like saving all those balls in the dirt??

      • WBBsAs

        Failure to get calls on the corner. That’s what framing means.

        • package206

          Guess you can see all that on your TV huh?

          • WBBsAs

            Well, yes.

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    C’mon, Zack — get the K or double play!

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    ZacKK!
    Uno mas, por favor!

  • RBI

    31 pitches? No es bueno.

  • RBI

    Bullet, dodged.

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    ZacKx3!!! (will not show those offensive initials)
    But wow, did he labor!

  • scooplew

    After slipping into the .230s, Pederson is now at .262.

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    “Like poached egg on toast,” AJ jumped on that ball . . . per Vin.

  • WBBsAs

    So, Don’s not the only one who orders bad bunts.

  • john galt

    Even Guerrero’s outs are long. That one was to the warning track in deepest centerfield…

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    OK, bats — get it back!

  • foul tip

    Braves broadcasters beefing about how loud the sound is at DS. Kinda implied Vin has complained about it too, over and over. But the complaints fall on deaf ears.

    [Sorry..sorta]

  • Bob_Hendley

    Uribear will have to learn to play with one of the best defensive shortstops in the game.

    • What happened?

      • Bob_Hendley

        He ranged far to his left on the ground ball he booted, when Simmons was already in position to field it.

        • Ah. The Braves’ shortstop is a little younger and has more range than Rollins.

          • Bob_Hendley

            He has a dWAR of 1.2 already this season

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    JR & JT!

  • WBBsAs

    Even before injuries started taking their toll, A.J. would not have beaten that throw.

  • RBI

    AJ slower then molasses on that hit.

  • RBI

    I think Greinke is out.

  • RBI

    Wow. I’m surprised. Safe.

    • WBBsAs

      Throw in plenty of time, foot off the bag.

  • RBI

    That’s our pitcher! Stealing second.

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    3 hits, no runs . . . yet.
    Hope Zack doesn’t drain himself with the running.

    • He’s already over 80-something pitches in five innings.

    • foul tip

      After 3 hits in one inning, you could hope for at least one.

  • RBI

    A.J. must be regretting that out.

  • RBI

    After this game, I’m a big Braves fan.

    • package206

      What?? Say that again.

      • Bob_in_Vegas

        They’re playing the Giants.

        • package206

          Thanks for telling me.

          • RBI

            Four games.

      • RBI

        Sorry, should have explained that better.

    • package206

      Not me, I am staying a Dodger fan.

  • Bob_Hendley

    Let’s go Alex!

  • WinnipegDave

    Dodgers should win this game that will be decided by the bullpens.

    • WinnipegDave

      Shouldn’t they?

      • RBI

        Well, there’s Hatcher to make things interesting.

  • Kike, you can do better than that.

    • foul tip

      Not sure the 2 called strikes actually were. This ump has been weird.

    • scooplew

      Kee-kay

      • WBBsAs

        Quique.

  • scooplew

    D

  • package206

    Hatcher is another DFA candidate.

    • scooplew

      He reminds me of Gregg Olson, a Dodger pitcher in 2000-2001.

      • package206

        I remember him. What ever happened to him?

      • Bob_Hendley

        I remember him from his heyday in Baltimore. Over six years put up an ERA+ of 176.

  • WinnipegDave

    Brutal when you walk a batter who is looking to bunt and willing to give you an out for free.

    • scooplew

      I will try to stop myself from repeating my Hatcher limerick of a couple of days ago.

      • WBBsAs

        Until/if he gets it straightened out, he belongs in low-leverage situations.

    • package206

      Brutal to the fan to have to watch Hatcher.

  • package206

    That ball was not hit hard enough to turn the DP.

  • WBBsAs

    A.J. lets it get past him.

    • package206

      GIVE ME A BREAK!! THAT PITCH WAS OVER HIS HEAD!!!!!!!!!!!

    • foul tip

      Not sure Andre the Giant could have reached that rocket.

  • Bob_Hendley

    Nothin’ going right. (well at least it was a ground rule double).

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    C’MON, bats!

  • WinnipegDave

    So close to getting out of that with nothing but they dug to big a hole with wildness.

  • JonnyTAFKAJ

    Ok….
    I’m totally not trying to be snarky here….
    And, yes…. I’ll be patient ( per WBB’s advisement ) with these guys, but on this night….
    ….
    Hatcher = 2 base runners…
    Liberatore = On the pitch before the “Bull Durham – Hit the Bull” pitch” …. I said to the tv, “Don’t
    bounce it…..” He did, but AJ back-handed it…. luckily.

    Luckily… because it provided for the next ‘nugget of entertainment’ (ala-George Costanza referring to Elaine’s dancing moves) which was Liberatore letting one fly to the back stop, yielding a run…… and, I’m quite certain a ‘grimace’ on the face of one Zach Grienke…

    Way to go, Farhan! – Way to build a staff !
    “Now, back to this one….” as Vinny says.

    PS- I hope these to guys come out and make amends tomorrow… 🙂

    • WBBsAs

      Liberatore’s been really good since he’s been up.

    • package206

      I am glad you saw that the Wild Pitch was not the catcher missing the pitch but rather the pitcher throwing a true Wild pitch. Some folks would lie about it.

      • WBBsAs

        A.J. very definitely missed it.

        • package206

          Anyone would miss a pitch 2 feet over their head.

          • Bob_in_Vegas

            Radio described it that way.

          • package206

            I saw the pitch, twice. So I am sure others did also.

          • Bob_in_Vegas

            Radio did — I was answering you.

          • package206

            Thanks

    • Bob_Hendley

      Adam appreciates your comments, but wonders where you were on April 17, 19, 21, 27, 29, May 3, 7 10, 11, 15, 19 and 25?

    • Bob_in_Vegas

      No game manana but huge weekend in St. Louis.

    • Have you noticed how badly Kimbrel has done with his new team? Relievers aren’t perfect.

  • RBI

    Their relievers are throwing strikes. That’s the difference.

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    Bats and bullpen better step up their game this weekend vs. a contending team.

  • RBI

    Whoa. That was a close call, at first.

    • RBI

      Not close, but you know what I mean…

  • WinnipegDave

    Who do you like as a pinch hitter in the bottom of the 9th?

    • RBI

      Dre.

    • Bob_Hendley

      Babe Ruth.

  • package206

    Grilli has been known to blow up.

  • RBI

    AG! Wish JT had been on.

  • WinnipegDave

    If only Turner had been on base!

    • JonnyTAFKAJ

      You said the same exact thing my wife just said……

  • WinnipegDave

    Let’s go Andre!

  • RBI

    Dre!!!

  • WBBsAs

    I want A.J. to do something positive here, but my confidence in him is limited. Major DP candidate.

    • WinnipegDave

      I’m hoping for a walk!

  • RBI

    This is so weird.

  • WBBsAs

    A.J. very lucky it wasn’t a GIDP.

  • WinnipegDave

    I’m not too confident here.

  • package206

    The bullpen lost that one.

    • RBI

      Definitely.

      • package206

        We will get em on Friday.

    • WBBsAs

      A.J. lost it. Bad baserunning, bad hitting, bad defence.

      • RBI

        Pretty harsh.

        • WBBsAs

          A.J. ran the Dodgers out of the only inning they scored in before the ninth. He just missed GDIPing in the ninth. He couldn’t get strike calls of Greinke.

      • RBI

        For me, the loss is on Hatcher. Five pitches, two on.

      • package206

        Well, checked the box this morning. No errors, passed balls for A.J. last night. He had a hit and a walk. Overall not a bad game. You need to learn to evaluate game results. Oh I forgot, you are the guy that loves to credit people who have cheated in the past.

        • WBBsAs

          You excell at the superficial. The box score does not show that he took the team out of an inning by trying to stretch a single – he was out by plenty even though he hit the ball off the wall – and that he hit a tailor-made DP ball in the ninth (only a misplay turned it into a mere force-out). Greinke’s every close pitch – there were plenty of them – was called a ball because of A.J. inability to frame.

          A.J. is fine playing once a week for now but, as I said before, his tragedy is that the former regime failed him by going with retreads when he was in his prime. Now that he’s an injury-prone retread himself, he has more to offer as a mentor than as a player. He’s a smart guy, and could make a fine coach or manager when his playing days are over – which could be as early as this off-season.

          Meanwhile, you continue to insist that Grandal should incur a lifetime suspension for a mistake he’s acknowledged and taken responsibility for – unlike B*nds, who paid his “best friend” do jail time for him.

          • package206

            My point is that Grandal is a cheater and even though he served his game suspension his character is somewhat questionable. He is not the great player you make him out to be.

          • WBBsAs

            I’ve never suggested Grandal is a great player, but he’s far better than A.J. has ever been, and I say that as someone who respects A.J. If you need to look for bad character, go to B*nds or Melky, not someone who’s accepted responsibility for his shortcomings.

    • Bob_Hendley

      With a little help from the offense.

      • package206

        True

      • The what?

        • package206

          I believe he said help from the offense.

  • RBI

    Too bad. But maybe this will start an Atlanta run of wins!

  • WinnipegDave

    Feels like the Dodgers just gave that one away. Frustrating.

    • JonnyTAFKAJ

      Actually…. they kinda just ” threw ” it away…. 😉
      …..
      Compliments of Mr. Liberatore….

    • Bob_Hendley

      Be nice to have Puig back to battle these southpaws.

      • Well, yeah, but this was only the seventh game in which the Dodgers have faced a lefty starter, according to Vinnie.

        It would just be nice to have Puig back period.

      • WBBsAs

        They haven’t missed Puig as much as I feared, but the sooner he’s back the better.

  • foul tip

    Pedro Moura
    ‏@pedromoura

    Juan Uribe: “I would’ve felt bad if they traded me to a soccer, basketball or football team. But it’s another baseball team, so I’m happy.”

    • WinnipegDave

      So I guess he would have been neutral if he had been traded to a hockey, water polo, or rugby team.

      • John_from_Aus

        Cricket?

        • foul tip

          This could bring new meaning to “it’s just not cricket.” ;-])

  • WBBsAs

    An appreciation of the rejuvenated Andre Ethier, but with some caveats: http://dodgersdigest.com/2015/05/28/so-andre-ethier-is-good-again-apparently/

  • RBI

    Link, this was from a comment on the Dodgers site – if accurate, it seems to support your notion that HO was trying to accommodate Uribe: “Several days ago Uribe, through his agent, requested a trade to a team
    where he would have the opportunity to play regularly. Not having a
    good year, limited to 3b, not a good PH, 36 years old, and a FA at end
    of year. Dodgers options to accommodate him were pretty slim. If
    Dodgers waited until Olivera was ready to play it was likely that Uribe
    would have been DFA where he potentially could have signed with Giants
    or Padres. Not a good trade, not a bad trade; but team did right by
    Uribe by sending him to Braves.”

    Makes me feel a little better about the whole thing.

    • WBBsAs

      Of course, the Barves could turn around and ship him to the Gnats.

      • No-o-o-o-o-o!

      • RBI

        At which point, he will hit the HR that knocks us out of the running during play-offs.

    • package206

      Did you know that Uribe did not ask for a trade according to him. He only asked what his role with the Dodgers was.

      • foul tip

        Reports several places say he did, thru his agent. Do you have a link to where he says he didn’t?

        • package206

          Yes Foul Tip, it is http://www.mlbrumors.com/los-angeles-dodgers Scroll down one or two stories.

          • foul tip

            Thx. From item summation– “Of course, it’s important to bear in mind that neither side has expressed bitterness and that there’s room for truth both ways. Friedman indicated that he had been conveyed something of a suggestion of a deal from Uribe’s representatives, rather than a demand of a deal from Uribe himself.”

          • package206

            That is something certainly Friedman would say.

  • WBBsAs

    According to Mike P, “Rollins hitting .280/.321./460 with a .267 BABIP last 14 days.” A glimmer of hope.

  • The reason they called up Heisey was that Van Slyke tweaked his back and is day-to-day.

  • scooplew

    Shortstop Corey Seager went 6-for-6 today (Thursday) for Oklahoma City at Salt Lake City. He had three singles, two doubles and a homer, scored twice and drove in six runs. OKC won, 14-11. In the four-game series in Utah, Seager went 13-for-18 with three homers and 10 RBIs, struck out only once and walked twice. He raised his average from .238 to .324. OKC won three of the four games.

    • Bob_in_Vegas

      He may be the sparkplug that’s needed if the offense sputters again.

      • scooplew

        If Seager continues to do well in the Pacific Coast League, and the hot Giants move past us by a few games, I think he could be brought up. But that would happen only if Rollins continues his flirtation with the Mendoza line.

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