Game Six, 2015

Dodgers at Diamondbacks, 1:10PM PT, TV: SPNLA

Zack Greinke went six innings and gave up two hits and one run in his first time out this season, getting a no-decision for his trouble. He’ll try to get a win tomorrow, one the Dodgers could use. They didn’t expect Clayton Kershaw to be 0-1 with a 5.84 ERA after two starts. His opponent will be Josh Collmenter, who had a rough outing in his first start of the year, going only 4 2/3 innings against the Giants and giving up 10 hits and four runs while taking the loss.

The Dodgers’ infield lineup is going to be interesting for this game. Justin Turner’s finger was spiked but required no stitches; he’s day-to-day. Juan Uribe’s hamstring tightened on him and he’s also day-to-day. I imagine Alex Guerrero will start at third base.

Lineup:

  • foul tip

    Great time to score first for the first time. Have read that team scoring first in MLB wins a majority of the time but not sure of win percentage or even that it’s so.

    Fangraphs seemed to have the answer, behind a paywall.

    • Bob_Hendley

      Not exactly scoring first, but last year the Dodgers won at a .674 clip in games where they were ahead after the first inning.

  • foul tip

    Wasn’t sure they’d trust Guerrero to start. But he, Puig, and Grandal give the Dodgers three Cubans starting.

    So it’s D-backs v the One Third Cuban Dodgers today. ;-])

    • Bob_Hendley

      Ball finds Alex.

      • foul tip

        No eyes…how’d he handle it?

        • Bob_Hendley

          Routine. Hit right at him. Had to wait for Agon to get to the bag before throwing the guy out. Next batter thought about bunting.

          • foul tip

            Gameday says grounders to him for all 3 outs…

          • Bob_Hendley

            Just the first and last grounder.

  • RBI

    Hey, what just happened to the game? Where’d picture go? Oh, it’s back.

  • There have been a lot of stone-handed third basemen who played in the major leagues. If Guerrero is merely adequate he’ll suffice until Uribe/Turner recover. I hope.

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    Only my 2nd time to tune into a game in progress this season — nice to see LA has a lead, sad to realize how impressed I am by that fact . . . but the season is young!

    Sad also to not hear Vin on the radio . . . isn’t he traveling to AZ?

    • RBI

      Hey, Bob, great to hear from you!

      • Bob_in_Vegas

        Thanks, RBI.
        I’ve been happily distracted, spending time with a great woman . . . but keeping an eye on the Dodgers and thinking what you guys have been saying about them.

  • RBI

    Hold the lead, Zack!

    • Bob_in_Vegas

      He listened!

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    Hearing “Guerrero at 3rd,” anyone else thinking of when Pedro was there and he admitted he was thinking ‘Don’t hit it to me . . . and don’t hit it to Sax!” (back when Steve was airmailing his throws from 2B)?

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    Mo had an interesting stat — only one of the 10 playoff teams last year were in a playoff position at the end of April . . . so there’s hope for a bad start!

  • Bob_Hendley

    Grandal a bit faster than AJ.

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    Yea — a rally!

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    Help yourself, Zack!

  • John_from_Aus

    I’d be happy with a 5th single here

    • Bob_in_Vegas

      Ditto BB, E, WP, or PB

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    Much ado about not much . . . but it still doubled the lead.
    Pressure on Zack to not have to depend on the bullpen — Dodger version of Groundhog Day?

  • Jack Dawkins

    Will be a long road season listening to this blabbering trio. I actually think I prefer Rick Monday and Kevin Kennedy (did you know he used to manage?) Never thought I’d say the words “I prefer Rick Monday.”

    • Bob_in_Vegas

      So Vin isn’t traveling at all?

      I DO like Mo. I really enjoyed it when Jerry Reuss did color with him.

      • Jack Dawkins

        Vin stays in CA only now.

        • Bob_in_Vegas

          Thanks for the info . . . but not the situation.

          Still, some Vin is better than none!

    • WBBsAs

      Steiner is the absolute worst.

      • Jack Dawkins

        Not as long as Nomar is in the booth with him in my opinion.

        • WBBsAs

          Steiner can’t even distinguish an infield fly from a ball fouled back into the stands.

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    PUIG!!!!

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    We know the admonition not to waste . . . hope it doesn’t come back to hurt . . .

  • Grrr. Puig homers, Adrian doubles, and three weak outs follow.

    • John_from_Aus

      oh well, at least we are 3 ahead, not 3 behind

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    Wasn’t this team presented to us as better D and better ‘Pen?
    So far, we have a case for false advertising or bait & switch . . .

  • John_from_Aus

    Nice Zac, now 1 more

  • WinnipegDave

    Nice to see Grandal blocking some of those pitches.

  • package206

    Hey WBB, Rollins is now at 4 errors so far this year. Let me know when to be concerned, OK?

    • WinnipegDave

      I get your larger point, but it may go back to 3 on that first play.

    • WBBsAs

      That means very little. If he put up Offerman numbers, then I’d be concerned.

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    ZacK!

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    ZacKK!
    Couldn’t help himself at the plate, but he does in the field!

  • John_from_Aus

    just popped away for a minute and I miss Joc’s HR!

    • WinnipegDave

      The first of hopefully many more to come.

  • I know it’s greedy of me, but couldn’t we get guys on base before we hit home runs? Hasn’t every one of Adrian’s five been a solo shot? And now Puig and Pederson’s are both solos too.

    • WinnipegDave

      Except for Rollins 3 run hr on opening day – it really does feel like they have hit a lot of solo hrs.

  • WinnipegDave

    Can the Dodgers please end Goldschmidt’s home run streak today?
    So far, so good.

  • WinnipegDave

    Time for another single run. I pick AGon to hit a solo hr.

  • WinnipegDave

    Well that worked for the Dodgers. This game is so much nicer to follow than last nights game. 🙂

  • John_from_Aus

    very odd looking scoreboard with a single run each of the last 5 innings

    • WinnipegDave

      I don’t think there has ever been a game where a team has scored a single run in each inning. It would be a cool line score to see!

      • WinnipegDave

        At this point, I really am hoping the Dodgers win 7-0.

  • WinnipegDave

    Because they are leading comfortably, I can be impressed that 1 double, 2 singles and 2 walks equals just one run.

  • John_from_Aus

    just saw footage of Pederson’s HR, wow, it looked like he barely hit it and it carried a fair way. Also loved his cheeky smile when he got back to the dugout

  • John_from_Aus

    Nice DP

  • WinnipegDave

    Just doing some research and as best I can tell a team has scored in each inning 11 times since 1901. And all of those teams scored more than 9 runs – which is what the score would be if a team scored a single run each inning (or 8 I guess at home if the away team scored less than 8).

  • WinnipegDave

    No picket fence this inning.

  • foul tip

    Hey, John….

    This is way OT, but is the Australian lake with glowing fish anywhere near you?

    http://www.outdoorlife.com/blogs/newshound/2013/11/glowing-barramundi-stocked-australian-lake

    • John_from_Aus

      about as far away from me as you can get in Aus (top of Western Australia)

      • package206

        Where they eat nachos for lunch. Ha

  • WinnipegDave

    Fun to see Goldschmidt strike out again. Nice pitch Baez.

  • Can we have Baez be designated pitcher for Goldie every game?

  • WinnipegDave

    Not exactly what I meant when I was hoping for 7-0, but I’ll definitely take this option as well.

  • WBBsAs

    Nice batflip by Guerrero.

  • WinnipegDave

    I love a quiet home crowd when the Dodgers are on the road. Chase Field sounds much less loud than last night.

  • WinnipegDave

    Mattingly doesn’t seem to trust Paco to pitch beyond one or two batters.

    • Bob_Hendley

      Not sure if it is necessarily a trust issue in that Donnie is into LOOGYs and sees Paco in that way and wants him available on a nightly basis.

  • RBI

    One more out! One more out!

    • WBBsAs

      How many more relievers will Don use today?

      • WinnipegDave

        Frustrated that Paco got pulled far too soon.

  • WinnipegDave

    Time to get someone else at least warming in the bullpen.

    • RBI

      Past time!

  • WinnipegDave

    I do not want to see Goldschmidt again this series. I really, really don’t.

  • John_from_Aus

    thank goodness we had a 7 run lead!

  • WBBsAs

    Don is to managing as Steiner is to broadcasting.

  • John_from_Aus

    finally

  • WinnipegDave

    Finally. Which is not what you want to say when you lead 7-0 going to the bottom of 9th.

  • That was a lot harder than it should have been.

  • WBBsAs

    If you want an idea of how bad it could have been, look at the Mariners-A’s box score.

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    LA led 5-0 when I walked to see a movie (HUGE disappointment — “Chappie,” from the same guy who did “District 9,” a movie I LOVED — but since it’s at the second-run theater, it only cost me $2 . . . and 2 hours of my life) . . . and I was STUNNED to see the final score.

    This bullpen is as scary as last year’s . . . unfortunately, they are “interesting” in the Chinese curse sense of the word.

    I’m not a Donnie detractor, but after viewing more comments here . . . and knowing that he and Honey are the common denominators from last year’s “interesting” Pen . . . and never a fan of the Torre “throw every pitcher you have at ’em” philosophy — perhaps it’s not just the fault of ineffective pitchers.

    • package206

      Perhaps, but the new FO assured us that they would fix the bullpen.

      • WBBsAs

        I might add that Yimi García has been brilliant, and Báez has been very good. So have Peralta and Nicasio (in limited service).

      • Bob_Hendley

        Of course, we were assured the same thing last year by Ned, but we lost a few guys to injury and Bluebeard and Perez were disasters.

        • package206

          Agreed, but this FO has received Kudos in scores of publications,so called baseball experts and some Dodger fans as well while some of us see only that the team has been weakened. Ned had no such backing.

          • john galt

            A pitcher is a sometime thing, with apologies to George Gershwin….

          • package206

            Hey John, missed you.

          • Bob_Hendley

            The current FO seems to be more media savvy than Ned (who was a PR guy!). In any event, Ned got big kudos for spending bucks and signing up a slew of ex-closers. Just didn’t work out.

      • WBBsAs
        • package206

          Mike Petriello has always been a huge supporter of the new FO and sabermetrics. This is his way of skewing the current bullpen to make it look not so bad. The truth is that it is all about results not excuses. I will say however that it is way to soon to pass judgement of any player or team. We shall see.

          • Bob_Hendley

            What is your issue with sabremetrics that makes you include them as a reason for discounting the opinion of someone who uses them in their argument?

          • package206

            Actually it is not entirely about sabermetrics. It is when the FO uses sabermetrics to justify tearing the team up. When a team wins 94 games, I don’t think it warrants the action taken. Just my opinion. Sabermetics is not all bad in my opinion but it is not a complete guide to running a baseball team. Most of the blog writers think that this is the case. If you disagree, you are blasted and completely discounted.

          • WBBsAs

            Actually, he points out that the results so far have been pretty good, but also that the small sample size does not allow us to draw any conclusions yet.

    • WBBsAs

      He pulled Paco utterly unnecessarily to give Hatcher – who had not pitched for nearly a week – a shot at it. The bullpen will be far more stable when Kenley returns, presuming Don can let Paco pitch to more than one batter.

      • Bob_Hendley

        Bringing in Paco didn’t make all that much sense to begin with, though perhaps he wanted to give him a full inning for once, but then decided against it. Giving Hatcher work in that situation is not a bad idea.

      • foul tip

        Could he now see Paco as a LOOGY even in the face of stats saying otherwise? Strange and dumb use of him so far.

  • Bob_in_Vegas

    Thanks for the input below.

    I just saw “Moneyball” again and was conscious of this FO vs. field debate as we (the audience) root for Billy Beane/Brad Pitt to exercise his will over manager Howe.

    • Bob_Hendley

      I suppose that this is debated in some circles, but really not a productive exercise to frame it in adversarial terms. The basis of advanced stats was to better define what it takes to win a ballgame that provides insights into things that may have been undervalued previously by FOs, managers and scouts (and fans!)

  • WBBsAs

    In Oakland yesterday, Fernando Rodney got a “win” after allowing four earned in the bottom of the ninth to let the game go into extras.

  • WBBsAs

    Without Hanley and Kemp, power is a problem. According to Eric Stephen’s summary, “Through six games the Dodgers have 14 doubles, three triples and 10 home runs. The 27 extra-base hits are their most in franchise history through the first six games of the season, dating back to at least 1914.”

    • package206

      Yea, 5 HRs are AGon and 3 doubles. Let’s not get carried away.

      • WBBsAs

        That means five HRs, 11 doubles, and three triples excluding AGon. Five HRs in six games projects to 135 HRs on the season (again excluding AGon). Last year the team hit 134 (including AGon). Again, it’s early and a small sample size, but it’s at least historic.

        • Bob_Hendley

          Nice crunch.

        • package206

          I will be getting back with you when this doesn’t happen.

          • Bob_Hendley

            Package, for me, I don’t think this is the real question. Rather, I think the counterfactual is what Hanley and Matty might have done with full and healthy seasons. We will see if that happens (or course, discounting some of Hanley’s given the ballparks, and adjusting Matty upward due to PETCO).

          • package206

            I have not mentioned anything about Hanley and Matty because of the fact that it is far too early to judge even though both of them have had reasonable starts.

        • foul tip

          Actually, 10 team HR in 6 games projects to around 260 for the season, if math holds. But that ain’t “a-Gon”na happen, given ups and downs, NL West parks, history, etc.

          We probably all have favorite stat sites, traditional or newer–or both.
          I like those at dodgers.com, since I’m there about every day anyway.

          http://tinyurl.com/qb6y3uy

          Think the HR column will show up first at link. But all stat headings for both individual and team batting and pitching are clickable for breakdown, if anyone doesn’t know. Interesting stuff often available there for baseball fans–stats junkies by nature.

          • WBBsAs

            For package’s benefit, to make a point by hyberbole, I was excluding AGon’s numbers. Obviously, at this point, nothing is definitive. That said, though I’m not a betting man, I’m pretty confident the Dodgers will exceed last year’s HR totals.

          • foul tip

            Understood and should have made clear that I did. Wouldn’t surprise me either to see more HRs this year.

  • JonnyTAFKAJ

    Greinke….. very impressive yesterday.
    Had to be frustrating for D-Back fans to watch that one….

    • foul tip

      Who should be feeling very fortunate after beating Kershaw Saturday–or anytime for that matter.

  • john galt

    Nice to see Guerrero contribute yesterday. Along with van Slyke, they can replace Crawford and Pederson against lefties. No way he could be a worse outfielder than Crawford. Take his shirt off, he has DH branded on his back…

    • WBBsAs

      Crawford’s defense is really suspect, not even considering that he’s a de facto amputee.

      • john galt

        It’s not suspect, it’s convicted.

        • WBBsAs

          He’s very poor at going back on balls, and can’t even reach the cutoff man most of the time.

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